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Subject: Re: A test position for chess programs

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 13:01:43 04/11/01

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On April 11, 2001 at 15:32:49, Uri Blass wrote:

>[D]8/p4k2/1p1p1qp1/1P1P4/P5P1/7P/4Q1K1/2b5 b - - 0 1
>
>The test is to avoid Qb2
>
>Most programs have no problem to avoid Qb2 but I suspect that this mistake is
>typical for Junior(I have not the latest version and it is interesting to know
>if Junior can avoid Qb2 and how much time does it need).
>
>I played Qb2 in a tournament game today and had to agree to a draw after Qxb2
>Bxb2 g5.
>
>It was my mistake to use only about 1 minute for 39...Qb2 when
>I had about 6 minutes for moves 39-40.
>
>I thought that 39...Qb2 is winning the game.
>Unfortunately I calculated only the line 39...Qb2 40.Qxb2 Bxb2 41.Kf3
>
>Uri


Crafty doesn't consider Qb2 at all:

         (2)    7->   0.29  -3.18   1. ... Bf4 2. Qc4 Qe5 3. Qc7+ Kf6 4.
                                    Qd8+ Kg7 5. Qd7+ Kh6 6. Kf3
                8     0.47  -3.33   1. ... Bf4 2. Qe4 Qb2+ 3. Kf3 Be5 4.
                                    Ke3 Qb3+ 5. Ke2 Qxh3 6. Qf3+ Qxf3+
                                    7. Kxf3 Ke7
                8->   0.55  -3.33   1. ... Bf4 2. Qe4 Qb2+ 3. Kf3 Be5 4.
                                    Ke3 Qb3+ 5. Ke2 Qxh3 6. Qf3+ Qxf3+
                                    7. Kxf3 Ke7
                9     0.93  -3.02   1. ... Bf4 2. Qe6+ Qxe6 3. dxe6+ Kxe6
                                    4. h4 Ke5 5. Kf3 d5 6. h5 gxh5 7. gxh5
                9     1.89  -3.17   1. ... Bg5 2. Qf2 Bh4 3. Qxf6+ Kxf6
                                    4. Kf3 Ke5 5. Ke3 g5 6. a5 Kxd5 7.
                                    axb6 axb6
         (4)    9->   2.29  -3.17   1. ... Bg5 2. Qf2 Bh4 3. Qxf6+ Kxf6
                                    4. Kf3 Ke5 5. Ke3 g5 6. a5 Kxd5 7.
                                    axb6 axb6
         (3)   10     2.65  -3.33   1. ... Bg5 2. Qf2 Bf4 3. Kf3 g5 4.
                                    Qc2 Qh8 5. Qc7+ Kf6 6. Qxa7 Qxh3+ 7.
                                    Ke4
               10->   2.93  -3.33   1. ... Bg5 2. Qf2 Bf4 3. Kf3 g5 4.
                                    Qc2 Qh8 5. Qc7+ Kf6 6. Qxa7 Qxh3+ 7.
                                    Ke4
               11     4.95  -3.44   1. ... Bg5 2. Qf2 Bh4 3. Qxf6+ Kxf6
                                    4. Kf3 Ke5 5. Ke2 Kxd5 6. Kf3 g5 7.
               11->   5.89  -3.44   1. ... Bg5 2. Qf2 Bh4 3. Qxf6+ Kxf6
                                    4. Kf3 Ke5 5. Ke2 Kxd5 6. Kf3 g5 7.
                                    Ke3 Bg3
               12     8.18  -3.45   1. ... Bg5 2. Qf2 Bh4 3. Qxf6+ Kxf6
                                    4. Kf3 Ke5 5. Ke2 Bf6 6. Ke3 g5 7.
                                    Kf3 Kxd5 8. Ke3
         (2)   12->  11.81  -3.45   1. ... Bg5 2. Qf2 Bh4 3. Qxf6+ Kxf6
                                    4. Kf3 Ke5 5. Ke2 Bf6 6. Ke3 g5 7.
                                    Kf3 Kxd5 8. Ke3
               13    23.08  -3.62   1. ... Bg5 2. Qf2 Bh4 3. Qxf6+ Kxf6
                                    4. Kf3 Ke5 5. Ke2 Kxd5 6. Kd3 Ke5 7.
                                    Kc4 d5+ 8. Kd3 g5 9. Ke3
               13->  33.00  -3.62   1. ... Bg5 2. Qf2 Bh4 3. Qxf6+ Kxf6
                                    4. Kf3 Ke5 5. Ke2 Kxd5 6. Kd3 Ke5 7.
                                    Kc4 d5+ 8. Kd3 g5 9. Ke3
               14    44.57  -3.71   1. ... Bg5 2. Qf2 Bh4 3. Qxf6+ Kxf6
                                    4. Kf3 Ke5 5. Ke2 Kxd5 6. Kd3 g5 7.
                                    Ke3 Kc4 8. Ke4 d5+ 9. Ke5 d4
               14->  49.67  -3.71   1. ... Bg5 2. Qf2 Bh4 3. Qxf6+ Kxf6
                                    4. Kf3 Ke5 5. Ke2 Kxd5 6. Kd3 g5 7.
                                    Ke3 Kc4 8. Ke4 d5+ 9. Ke5 d4

However, the temptation to trade queens when ahead in material is pretty
strong, and it thinks that queens will be traded a couple of moves later.




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