Author: Paul Doire
Date: 13:29:37 04/11/01
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On April 11, 2001 at 15:53:20, Dann Corbit wrote: >On April 11, 2001 at 15:21:07, Jonas Cohonas wrote: >>On April 11, 2001 at 14:59:56, Dann Corbit wrote: >>>On April 11, 2001 at 12:36:34, Paul Doire wrote: >[snip] >>>On the other, other hand -- you do have a good point. We can be contrary and >>>still be civil about it. On the other, other, other hand -- we should not >>>become offended at every contrary remark. A wise man once said, "The taking of >>>offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid one." >[snip] >>>Friendly is a good idea. >[snip] >>To disagree and being rude is two different things and i read paul's post as >>being about the rudeness that seems to prevail here at times and not the fact >>that, when you voice your opinions people will either agree or disagree, but >>when you disagree then do it in a polite way and dont be rude. I found paul's >>post to very relevant and i did not take offence to any of his points. >> >>"I am glad that my interest is the same as those that frequent this place,but I >>am equally glad that my personality is not the same as the ruthless, arrogant >>bastards that blow everyone off this board."(paul) >> >>>"This (the above) is the epitomy of rutheless arrogance. In fact, it is one of >>>the most ruthless and arrogant statements I have ever read on this board. On >>>the other hand, I don't think it is so horrible that it ought to be censored, >>>even though you have accused some large fraction of the readership in the most >>>negative way."(dan) >> >>If you read the last part in paul's statement, it is only directed to people >>here, few or many i don't know, who only voice their opinion in a negative way >>and i see nothing arrogant or ruthless in pointing that out, it seems like >>someone has to make it a point since some people here cannot see that for >>themselves. > >As you can see from the parts I left in, I agree completely with the friendly >part. On the other hand, most of the time when people take offense it has very >little to do with friendly/unfriendly and very much to do with being simply >unable to withstand any sort of criticism. > >Being friendly is part of being civilized. And yet civilized people are also >unfriendly at times. The thing to be aimed for is to be as polite as we can >without walking on eggshells or losing our personality. > >I suppose what we are heading for is a day when it is impossible to say anything >which might be perceived as negative. Well, I'm not ever going to go there, >[though I do temper my speach (believe it or not).] > >I think that we should all consider the feelings of others. But the other half >of the equation is not to become needlessly offended. Often, when we get mad >about criticism what it means is that we are actually very unsure of our >position and do not know how to respond to the criticism in a sensible way. >Well, that's usually what it means when I fly off the handle. Well that's what it means for you and you alone, you shouldn't assume that your feelings are the same as everyone elses. I am sure there is a huge ....now absent would be membership that would agree with me if they were not scared away. Paul
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