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Subject: Re: Good News (for CM) regarding SSDF's CM8000 Testing

Author: Bertil Eklund

Date: 16:59:02 04/11/01

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On April 11, 2001 at 19:41:00, James T. Walker wrote:

>On April 11, 2001 at 19:22:12, Bertil Eklund wrote:
>
>>On April 11, 2001 at 18:55:33, James T. Walker wrote:
>>
>>>On April 11, 2001 at 14:46:16, Peter Berger wrote:
>>>
>>>>Yippie :-) !!!
>>>>
>>>>In fact I was already thinking something odd was happening on my computer and to
>>>>my sense of judgement as CM performed so well here.
>>>>
>>>>I even remember I thought of sending a similar tip to Thorsten Czub when he
>>>>started his Millenium tournament but then I thought : "hey , noone but silly me
>>>>will stumble across this" ( as this confused me , too , in the beginning ) .
>>>>
>>>>Cheers.
>>>>
>>>>pete
>>>
>>>I find all of this hard to believe.   Is the SSDF libing in a cave?
>>
>>What do you mean? Do you mean he plays 50 tournament games and publish them here
>>in order to miscredit Chessmaster8000? If this was so easy to understand why
>>don't you told us about it.
>>
>>Bertil
>>
>>
>>>problem was mentioned here in great detail in the original version and the
>>>change made with the patch.  Effectively doubling the speed of CM8K will help
>>>some but I suspect this will be partly offset by the "Learning" features of it's
>>>opponents.  I don't know how you can effectively test CM8K vs the Tigers since
>>>the Tigers refuse to play CM8K from the black side.  Maybe the Chessbase version
>>>will work better in this respect than the Lockasoft version.  Also I believe
>>>CM8K fans should not get too excited about it's prospects on the SSDF list.  I
>>>believe the other programs have improved more than Chessmaster in the last 2
>>>years.  Mostly because of the lack of book learning,lack of a better opening
>>>book and lack of tablebases.  I hope I'm wrong but my own testing is the reason
>>>for my skepticism.  I feel sure it will not be number 1.
>>>Jim
>
>Hello Bertil,
>I have read all 3 of your post and still I don't understand what you are saying.
> I explained what I meant in the lines following the first 2 sentences that you
>apparently have a problem with.  What I said and what I mean is that the problem
>was well known and highly publicised right here on CCC.  Anyone paying attention
>to the CM8K post by John and many others should have known about the multiple
>engine problem.  Especially anyone considering testing CM8K for strength/rating
>purposes.
>Jim

Thanks Jim

Things had been easier if someone had dropped us a line about it before we had
played with it for weeks. I have also seen that a lot of people have done the
some mistake that was obvious for you and a few more.

Sorry for the multiple postings

Bertil



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