Author: stuart taylor
Date: 12:46:13 04/12/01
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On April 12, 2001 at 13:23:26, Scott Woods wrote: >On April 12, 2001 at 04:20:07, stuart taylor wrote: > >>On April 11, 2001 at 08:49:21, Scott Woods wrote: >> >>>Stuart, >>> >>>Very simple really. >>> >>>There have been a lot of posts on this site saying that CM8K is weak. >>> -"A larger opening book is the problem" >>> -"Weak in the endgame- needs table bases" >>> >>>There have been questions over which patch has been tested etc etc. >>> >>>Then there are posts of how well "The King" does when "Johan de Koenig" operates >>>the machine. >>> >>>A bit confusing all round. >>> >>>The proof of the pudding as they say..... >>>So I am volunteering myself to play 100 games of CM8K v1.02 against Fritz 6e. >>>because they are the 2 chess programs I currently own and I have to start >>>somewhere. >>> >>>My budget doesn't run to identical hardware so I have given Fritz the better >>>machine. It has the benefit 64Mg more memory, twice the amount of hash tables - >>>a faster processor and tablebases. >>> >>> - if the games look a bit one sided in favour of the faster hardware - I'll >>>swap the hardware at game 50. >>> >>>When we get to 100 games - we should have a fair idea of how well CM8K plays >>>against Fritz 6e. >>> >>>I will publish on this site every 10 games the results, settings, hardware specs >>>etc etc >>> >>>Then I'll go out and buy "Deep Something or other" and/or some of the other >>>engines that are well respected on this site and repeat the exercise. >>> >>>Will this prove which is the strongest chess engine in the market? >>> - Of course it won't. >>> >>>What it will illustrate is how well CM8K plays against those other engines, >>> >>> >>> >>>As for playing CM6K against CM8K - I will leave that for someone else as CM6K >>>does not allow winboard232.exe autoplay >> >> >>This certainly sounds very worthwhile. But only if the nature of Fritz 6e is >>known, and/or other programs will/have also be(en) compared to it. >>(nb when I said earlier about 6e being weaker than 6a, I meaned 6b is weaker, >>not 6e. 6e maybe too, but I don't know). >> "Will it prove which is the strongest chess engine in the market?" Of course, >>after a few tests with CM8K it will strongly indicate where CM8K stands, even if >>does not play all of them. >>S.Taylor > >Hi Stuart, >Really bizarre 24 hours this. > >SSDF has found that many of the CM8K games are invalid because of the "Thinking >lines switches" and are re-doing the affected CM8K games. >Hat's off to the guys for doing this - because it's a fair bit of their time to > >Also I think the SSDF posting the games will have a lot more clout ( and >respectability ) than "little old me" but I will continue with them in the >meantime. > >On a by note, >One thing I find fascinating is how the different engines are scheming and >plotting - ( and the difference in the points analysis too ) > >Now if I can only get the Missus to agree that I need Deep Fritz/ Deep Junior/ >Shredder and Gambit Tiger.....etc... > >;-p > >Scott You mean they should send them to you as a tester? Good idea! Anyway, I think what is sorely missing from the ssdf is a willingness to compare things by testing CM6K. But I agree it is very good of them to be redoing those many games of CM8K. Necesary too! S.Taylor
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