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Subject: Re: Did someone try fixed depth tournaments?

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 21:54:03 04/12/01

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On April 13, 2001 at 00:40:47, Uri Blass wrote:

>It is possible to play gmaes at fixed depth under Deep Fritz.
>
>Did someone try to play tournament between engines at fixed depth in order to
>find out which engine earns more from getting more plies and if there is a
>diminishing return from bigger depth?
>
>I think that it will be intresting to have a rating list of the following
>programs:
>
>Deep Fritz(1 ply)
>Deep Fritz(2 plies)
>Deep Fritz(3 plies)
>...
>Deep Fritz(10 plies)
>Deep Fritz(11 plies)
>Deep Fritz(12 plies)
>Hiarcs7.32(1 ply)
>Hiarcs7.32(2 plies)
>Hiarcs7.32(3 plies)
>...
>Hiarcs7.32(10 plies)
>Gambittiger(x plies)
>Tiger14(x plies)
>
>You can add more programs like Nimzo8 or the latest chessbase version of Crafty.
>The rating of the programs should be based only on games between different
>programs so there should not be games between Deep Fritz(6 plies) and Deep
>Fritz(7 plies) because I remember that when Fritz6 played against itself people
>criticized the experiment and said that it does not prove diminishing returns
>from bigger depth.

Two problems:
1.  Everyone counts depth differently.
2.  How do you set up a tournament to play fixed depths?

The Crafty goes deep and DarkThought goes deep experiments are the only data I
have seen published on increasing ply verses ply+1 self-play.

What happened with the Fritz tournament?  Where is the data?



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