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Subject: Re: Did someone try fixed depth tournaments?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 01:58:10 04/13/01

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On April 13, 2001 at 04:51:42, Georg v. Zimmermann wrote:

>On April 13, 2001 at 00:40:47, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>It is possible to play gmaes at fixed depth under Deep Fritz.
>>
>>Did someone try to play tournament between engines at fixed depth in order to
>>find out which engine earns more from getting more plies and if there is a
>>diminishing return from bigger depth?
>>
>>I think that it will be intresting to have a rating list of the following
>>programs:
>>
>>Deep Fritz(1 ply)
>>Deep Fritz(2 plies)
>>Deep Fritz(3 plies)
>>...
>>Deep Fritz(10 plies)
>>Deep Fritz(11 plies)
>>Deep Fritz(12 plies)
>>Hiarcs7.32(1 ply)
>>Hiarcs7.32(2 plies)
>>Hiarcs7.32(3 plies)
>>...
>>Hiarcs7.32(10 plies)
>>Gambittiger(x plies)
>>Tiger14(x plies)
>>
>>You can add more programs like Nimzo8 or the latest chessbase version of Crafty.
>>The rating of the programs should be based only on games between different
>>programs so there should not be games between Deep Fritz(6 plies) and Deep
>>Fritz(7 plies) because I remember that when Fritz6 played against itself people
>>criticized the experiment and said that it does not prove diminishing returns
>>from bigger depth.
>
>Same Program - Same Program is the only experiment that would make sense though.
>You can't compare depth between different programs. I think that has been
>explained before :)
>
>Regards,
>Georg v. Zimmermann

I agree that depthes of different programs are not eqvivalent but you can
compare the rating of Deep Fritz(6 plies) with the rating of deep Fritz(5 plies)

Yoiu can also compare the rating of Deep Fritz(10 plies) with the rating of Deep
Fritz(9 plies)

If you see that the difference is smaller when the depth is bigger than you can
learn that there is deminishing returns for Deep Fritz.

Playing the same program against itself is less convincing.

Uri



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