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Subject: Re: Deep Shredder vs. Vladimir Kramnik ... what thinking the programmers of

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 04:37:13 04/14/01

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On April 14, 2001 at 06:31:18, Frank Quisinsky wrote:

>Hello,
>
>it is a very interesting match.
>World Champion Vladimir Kramnik vs. Computer World Champion 1996, 1999, 2000 and
>IPCCC Champion 2000, 2001 Shredder.
>
>I don`t believe that a winner from a living room tournament can play against WM
>Vladmir Kramnik. The "Donald Duck" qualifikation in a "Micky Mouse" tournament
>is not interesting.
>
>Compare to:
>Frank Quisinsky play a WinBoard tourney at home and the winner can play against
>Kasparov :-))
>
>Shredder won all important tournaments and I think it is not a question which
>program can / must play against Vladimir Kramnik.
>
>The question for me is now:
>If Enrique play a quallification tournament I can`t believe that the TOP
>programmer will start on this tournament. In the regular tournaments no program
>can beat Shredder after now 33 games. So I think for the top programmers is also
>clear which program must play against Vladimir Kramnik.
>
>Now we will see ...
>I lose my interest on computer chess if I see that Shredder can`t not play
>directly against Vladimir Kramnik.
>
>But interesting is:
>After the big event Shredder vs. Kramnik a living room tournament is good enough
>for play after the game 1 blitz game against Vladimir Kramnik :-))
>
>What thinking the members of CCC.
>I wonder if the most member have an other opinion.

Time for a poll.


>What thinking the programmer of Junior, Fritz, Gandalf, The King, Rebel, Hiarcs,
>Nimzo, Shredder, Tiger !
>
>Yes Christophe, Ed, Amir what do you think:

Shredder, hard to ignore since its impressive comp-comp programmer tournament
victories;
Fritz, self understood;
Junior, got a TPR of 2700 last year in Dortmund I believe, hard to ignore too;
Tiger, probably the strongest at the moment;
Rebel, undefeated in each human-comp match it played.

Most honest thing is to have a play-off.

If that is feasible is another matter.

Ed


>Do you think I will play vs. Vladimir Kramnik or do you think no Shredder must
>play against Vladimir Kramnik.
>
>Best
>Frank



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