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Subject: Re: Deep Shredder vs. Vladimir Kramnik ... what thinking the programmers of

Author: Rajen Gupta

Date: 06:22:39 04/14/01

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On April 14, 2001 at 06:31:18, Frank Quisinsky wrote:

>Hello,
>
>it is a very interesting match.
>World Champion Vladimir Kramnik vs. Computer World Champion 1996, 1999, 2000 and
>IPCCC Champion 2000, 2001 Shredder.

YES IT WILL BE INTERESTING NO MATTER WHETHER DF DJ OR DS PLAY
>
>I don`t believe that a winner from a living room tournament can play against WM
>Vladmir Kramnik. The "Donald Duck" qualifikation in a "Micky Mouse" tournament
>is not interesting.

YOU MIGHT THINK ITS MICKWEYMOUSE AND DONALD DUCK BUT THE REST OF US ARE QUITE
HAPPY ABOUT IT
>
>Compare to:
>Frank Quisinsky play a WinBoard tourney at home and the winner can play against
>Kasparov :-))

NOT QUITE THE SAME:ENRIQUE IRAZOQUI TESTING PROGRAMMES ANFD SELECTING THE BEST
ONE IS A BIT DIFFERENT FROM YOU PLAYING A WINBOARD TOURNAMENT. AS FAR AS
CREDIBILITY AND RECOGNITION GO THE 2 OF YOU ARE NOT QUITE IN THE SAME LEAGUE,
I'M SORRY TO SAY
>
>Shredder won all important tournaments and I think it is not a question which
>program can / must play against Vladimir Kramnik.

IT IS THE A QUESTION. IT MUST PROVE TO BE THE STRONGEST MULTIPROCESSOR ENGINE
AROUND BEFORE IT CAN PLAY SOMEONE OF THE CALIBER OF VLAD.(IF IT IS THE BEST
PROGRAM THEN OBVIOUSLY IT WILL DISPOSE OF DF AND DJ ANYWAY, SO WHATS THE PROBLEM
>
>The question for me is now:
>If Enrique play a quallification tournament I can`t believe that the TOP
>programmer will start on this tournament. In the regular tournaments no program
>can beat Shredder after now 33 games. So I think for the top programmers is also
>clear which program must play against Vladimir Kramnik.

ARE YOU CASTING ASPERTIONS ON ENRIQUES INTEGRITY OR HIS HONESTY? DO YOU DOUBT
THAT ENRIQUE WILL BE UNFAIR-THE REST OF US DONT
>
>Now we will see ...
>I lose my interest on computer chess if I see that Shredder can`t not play
>directly against Vladimir Kramnik.

YOU MIGHT LOSE INTEREST BUT MAJORITY OF US WONT
>
>But interesting is:
>After the big event Shredder vs. Kramnik a living room tournament is good enough
>for play after the game 1 blitz game against Vladimir Kramnik :-))
>
>What thinking the members of CCC.
>I wonder if the most member have an other opinion.

WE ARE QUITE EAGER TO SEE THIS MATH AND THINK THAT ENRIQUE IS HE BEST PERSON TO
JUDGE WHICH PROGRAMME TO PLAY.WHILE TIGER AND GAMBIT MAY BE THE STRONGEST ON 1
PROCESSOR,DF AND DJ HAVE PROVED THEMSELVES TIME AND AGAIN IN MAN VS MACHINE
MATCHES>
>What thinking the programmer of Junior, Fritz, Gandalf, The King, Rebel, Hiarcs,
>Nimzo, Shredder, Tiger !
>
>Yes Christophe, Ed, Amir what do you think:
>
>Do you think I will play vs. Vladimir Kramnik or do you think no Shredder must
>play against Vladimir Kramnik.
>
>Best
>Frank



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