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Subject: Re: Deep Shredder vs. Vladimir Kramnik ... what thinking the programmers of

Author: Frank Quisinsky

Date: 09:54:32 04/14/01

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On April 14, 2001 at 07:37:13, Ed Schröder wrote:

>On April 14, 2001 at 06:31:18, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>it is a very interesting match.
>>World Champion Vladimir Kramnik vs. Computer World Champion 1996, 1999, 2000 and
>>IPCCC Champion 2000, 2001 Shredder.
>>
>>I don`t believe that a winner from a living room tournament can play against WM
>>Vladmir Kramnik. The "Donald Duck" qualifikation in a "Micky Mouse" tournament
>>is not interesting.
>>
>>Compare to:
>>Frank Quisinsky play a WinBoard tourney at home and the winner can play against
>>Kasparov :-))
>>
>>Shredder won all important tournaments and I think it is not a question which
>>program can / must play against Vladimir Kramnik.
>>
>>The question for me is now:
>>If Enrique play a quallification tournament I can`t believe that the TOP
>>programmer will start on this tournament. In the regular tournaments no program
>>can beat Shredder after now 33 games. So I think for the top programmers is also
>>clear which program must play against Vladimir Kramnik.
>>
>>Now we will see ...
>>I lose my interest on computer chess if I see that Shredder can`t not play
>>directly against Vladimir Kramnik.
>>
>>But interesting is:
>>After the big event Shredder vs. Kramnik a living room tournament is good enough
>>for play after the game 1 blitz game against Vladimir Kramnik :-))
>>
>>What thinking the members of CCC.
>>I wonder if the most member have an other opinion.
>
>Time for a poll.

Hi Ed,

yes I thinking about this for hours :-)

>>What thinking the programmer of Junior, Fritz, Gandalf, The King, Rebel, Hiarcs,
>>Nimzo, Shredder, Tiger !
>>
>>Yes Christophe, Ed, Amir what do you think:
>
>Shredder, hard to ignore since its impressive comp-comp programmer tournament
>victories;
>Fritz, self understood;
>Junior, got a TPR of 2700 last year in Dortmund I believe, hard to ignore too;
>Tiger, probably the strongest at the moment;
>Rebel, undefeated in each human-comp match it played.

This is all right !
But you will play against a World Champion and I think the World Champion will
play against the Computer Chess World Champion and Shredder is World Champion
from 1996, 1999, 2000 !!

Ed, all programmers which can`t beat Shredder in a WM have not a chance to say I
will play against Kramnik. All this programmer must say ... Shredder ist World
Champion and must play against Kramnik.

This is fair and I hope the TOP programmers building this opinion or we have in
the near future also 2 Computer Chess World Champions or 3 or 4 ?

Best
Frank

>Most honest thing is to have a play-off.
>
>If that is feasible is another matter.
>
>Ed
>
>
>>Do you think I will play vs. Vladimir Kramnik or do you think no Shredder must
>>play against Vladimir Kramnik.
>>
>>Best
>>Frank



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