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Subject: Re: 1.5 out of 2....really?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 10:14:18 04/14/01

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On April 14, 2001 at 09:23:07, Chessfun wrote:

>On April 14, 2001 at 05:23:24, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On April 13, 2001 at 16:03:50, Tomas Casanovas Martinez wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>I have just finished the first round of my new tournament. Invited engines:
>>>
>>>Deep Fritz, Deep Junior, Deep Shredder, Chess Tiger 14.0, Gambit Tiger 2 and
>>>Gandalf 432h. 10 rounds.
>>>
>>>60 minutes game. Operated manually.
>>>
>>>White plays in a Pentium 4 1.4 Ghz
>>>Black plays in a Dual Pentium 3 2x933 Mhz  (About one third faster than my
>>>Pentium 4)
>>
>>Hello, i do not speak for other programs but nearly.
>>a P4 at 1.4Ghz is about the speed of a 800MhzPIII for DIEP.
>>
>>Not to mention dual it is even slower because of increased latencies
>>for locking. Only measured single cpu version...
>>
>>So a dual PIII 933 is going to be well over 2 times faster as a 1.4Ghz p4.
>>
>>Now that is speed for DIEP.
>>
>>I have a big pity with the programs on the slower hardware especially
>>if the level is fast and operator slow as you lose like 20 minutes
>>a program a game then which results in 45 0 level :)
>>
>>Here my second game slower or equal to 15 0 level against chess tiger 14.0:
>>
>>I played at fics. i did not play standard level before at fics, hence
>>UNR:
>>
>>Diepeveen (UNR) vs. RebelRex (2441) --- Fri Apr 13, 11:00 PDT 2001
>>Rated standard match, initial time: 15 minutes, increment: 15 seconds.
>>
>>Move  Diepeveen          RebelRex K7-1333Mhz or 1.33Ghz DDR-RAM.
>>----  ----------------   ----------------
>>  1.  e4      (0:00)     e6      (0:00)
>>  2.  d4      (0:03)     b6      (0:00)
>>  3.  Nc3     (1:33)     d5      (0:20)
>>  4.  e5      (0:53)     c5      (0:21)
>>  5.  Nf3     (0:09)     Nc6     (0:15)
>>  6.  Bb5     (0:05)     Bd7     (0:14)
>>  7.  Bxc6    (0:10)     Bxc6    (0:03)
>>  8.  O-O     (0:02)     Ne7     (0:24)
>>  9.  Bg5     (0:07)     h6      (0:20)
>> 10.  Bxe7    (0:08)     Bxe7    (0:16)
>> 11.  Ne2     (0:01)     O-O     (0:44)
>> 12.  c3      (0:03)     Qd7     (0:18)
>> 13.  Re1     (0:06)     Ba4     (0:10)
>> 14.  Qd2     (0:14)     Bb5     (0:03)
>> 15.  Rac1    (0:12)     Rab8    (0:16)
>> 16.  h3      (0:04)     Rfc8    (0:21)
>> 17.  Nf4     (0:12)     cxd4    (0:46)
>> 18.  Nxd4    (0:39)     Bc4     (0:18)
>> 19.  b3      (0:08)     Ba6     (1:22)
>> 20.  g3      (0:02)     Ba3     (0:15)
>> 21.  Rb1     (0:05)     Qc7     (0:15)
>> 22.  Re3     (1:15)     Be7     (0:00)
>> 23.  h4      (0:03)     Bc5     (0:16)
>> 24.  b4      (0:25)     Bf8     (0:15)
>> 25.  Nfe2    (0:28)     Bc4     (0:19)
>> 26.  f4      (0:08)     Ra8     (0:13)
>> 27.  a4      (0:15)     a5      (0:21)
>> 28.  b5      (0:06)     Qd7     (0:21)
>> 29.  Nc6     (0:19)     Bc5     (0:26)
>> 30.  Ned4    (0:04)     Qc7     (0:12)
>> 31.  Kh2     (0:33)     Qb7     (0:15)
>> 32.  Rf3     (1:17)     Rc7     (0:22)
>>
>>PLEASE LOOK AT THIS POSITION. How would
>>Kramnik do against such beginners?
>>
>>A beginner positionally outplaying Tiger by at
>>least 1000 positional points. Tactical of course 1000 less,
>>hence it gets a draw.
>>
>> 33.  Kh1     (1:16)     Qc8     (0:20)
>> 34.  Qc2     (0:39)     Kh8     (0:14)
>> 35.  Rd1     (0:41)     Qg8     (0:19)
>> 36.  g4      (0:04)     Qf8     (0:28)
>> 37.  Rd2     (0:11)     Qe8     (0:13)
>> 38.  Rg2     (0:15)     Rac8    (0:15)
>> 39.  Qd1     (1:48)     Qf8     (0:13)
>> 40.  Rfg3    (0:10)     Bxd4    (0:19)
>> 41.  cxd4    (1:27)     f6      (0:17)
>> 42.  g5      (1:26)     fxg5    (1:15)
>> 43.  fxg5    (3:40)     Qf4     (0:00)
>> 44.  Rg4     (1:17)     Qf1+    (0:13)
>> 45.  Qxf1    (0:04)     Bxf1    (0:05)
>> 46.  Rf2     (0:04)     Bh3     (0:19)
>> 47.  Rgf4    (0:07)     Bf5     (1:45)
>> 48.  Rxf5    (0:16)     exf5    (0:00)
>> 49.  Rxf5    (0:13)     g6      (0:15)
>> 50.  Rf6     (0:08)     hxg5    (0:19)
>> 51.  hxg5    (0:03)     Kg7     (0:52)
>> 52.  Kg2     (1:11)     Rh8     (0:22)
>> 53.  Kg3     (0:07)     Rf7     (0:16)
>> 54.  Kg4     (0:45)     Rhf8    (0:00)
>> 55.  Kf4     (0:16)     Rh8     (0:00)
>> 56.  Kg4     (0:02)     Rhf8    (0:17)
>> 57.  Kf4     (0:02)     Rh8     (0:17)
>> 58.  Kg4     (0:09)
>>      {Game drawn by repetition} 1/2-1/2
>>
>>So my score now is 1.5 out of 2 against Tiger14/Gambit tiger 2.0
>
>Not exactly true.
>See;
>http://site2936.dellhost.com/forums/1/message.shtml?162668
>
>Sarah.

This post is about 5 5 game.

vincent claims

"Here my second game slower or equal to 15 0 level against chess tiger 14.0:"

5 5 is not slower or equal to 15 0.

5 5 game take usually less time than 15 0 games because most of the games have
less than 120 moves.

Uri



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