Author: Frank Quisinsky
Date: 10:18:41 04/14/01
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On April 14, 2001 at 11:46:26, Mogens Larsen wrote: >On April 14, 2001 at 06:31:18, Frank Quisinsky wrote: > >>Hello, >> >>it is a very interesting match. >>World Champion Vladimir Kramnik vs. Computer World Champion 1996, 1999, 2000 and >>IPCCC Champion 2000, 2001 Shredder. >> >>I don`t believe that a winner from a living room tournament can play against WM >>Vladmir Kramnik. The "Donald Duck" qualifikation in a "Micky Mouse" tournament >>is not interesting. >> >>Compare to: >>Frank Quisinsky play a WinBoard tourney at home and the winner can play against >>Kasparov :-)) >> >>Shredder won all important tournaments and I think it is not a question which >>program can / must play against Vladimir Kramnik. >> >>The question for me is now: >>If Enrique play a quallification tournament I can`t believe that the TOP >>programmer will start on this tournament. In the regular tournaments no program >>can beat Shredder after now 33 games. So I think for the top programmers is also >>clear which program must play against Vladimir Kramnik. >> >>Now we will see ... >>I lose my interest on computer chess if I see that Shredder can`t not play >>directly against Vladimir Kramnik. > >Hey Frank, > >If it was up to me then you would lose your interest in computer chess :-), >because I don't see why Shredder should have any particular rights when it comes >to challenging Kramnik or anybody else for that matter. However, I do find the >prospect of a qualification tournament in somebody's "basement" to be completely >ridiculous. Especially if the statement at the Millennium website is true. That >is regardless of the person in charge. > >The most natural way to conduct such a tournament would be an arrangement by BGN >that resolves the need for programmer participation and complete public access >by a decent coverage. Of course there are the usual problems with hardware and >special tournament preparation. They can hopefully be resolved. > >Either way, I don't see why previous tournaments or the SSDF list has any >relevance for this particular event. > >Regards, >Mogens Mogens, ich wäre sehr enttäuscht wenn hier die Programmierer alle ein Anrecht darauf hegen würden gegen Kramnik zu spielen. Die Frage stellt sich nicht. Spielt denn Ehre heute überhaupt keine Rolle mehr ? Wenn ich bei mehreren wichtigen Turnieren nicht gewinnen konnte, würde mir nicht im Traum einfallen zu sagen ... ich will jetzt aber gegen Kramnik spielen oder eine Quallifikation muß her. Das sagt doch nur ein schlechter Verlierer. Machen wir uns doch nichts vor. Alle anderen Ausreden sind lächerlich und sprechen nicht für Ehrgefühl. Ich bin gespannt was die Programmierer selbst sagen. Es kann nur ehrenhaft sein zu sagen: "Stefan hat alles gewonnen er muß uns vertreten" Kommt das nicht scheint das liebe Geld doch wichtiger zu sein als Ehrgefühl. Dies ist zwar auch nichts besonderes in der Gesellschaft aber solange es Möglichkeiten gibt einzuwirken sollten wir diese wahrnehmen. Gruß Frank
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