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Subject: Re: Deep Shredder vs. Vladimir Kramnik ... what thinking the programmers of

Author: Miguel A. Ballicora

Date: 15:42:49 04/14/01

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On April 14, 2001 at 16:10:30, Frank Quisinsky wrote:

>On April 14, 2001 at 14:22:41, Mogens Larsen wrote:
>
>>On April 14, 2001 at 13:18:41, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>>
>>>Mogens,
>>>
>>>ich wäre sehr enttäuscht wenn hier die Programmierer alle ein Anrecht darauf
>>>hegen würden gegen Kramnik zu spielen. Die Frage stellt sich nicht.
>>>
>>>Spielt denn Ehre heute überhaupt keine Rolle mehr ?
>>>
>>>Wenn ich bei mehreren wichtigen Turnieren nicht gewinnen konnte, würde mir nicht
>>>im Traum einfallen zu sagen ... ich will jetzt aber gegen Kramnik spielen oder
>>>eine Quallifikation muß her.
>>>
>>>Das sagt doch nur ein schlechter Verlierer.
>>>Machen wir uns doch nichts vor.
>>>
>>>Alle anderen Ausreden sind lächerlich und sprechen nicht für Ehrgefühl.
>>>
>>>Ich bin gespannt was die Programmierer selbst sagen.
>>>Es kann nur ehrenhaft sein zu sagen:
>>>
>>>"Stefan hat alles gewonnen er muß uns vertreten"
>>>
>>>Kommt das nicht scheint das liebe Geld doch wichtiger zu sein als Ehrgefühl.
>>>Dies ist zwar auch nichts besonderes in der Gesellschaft aber solange es
>>>Möglichkeiten gibt einzuwirken sollten wir diese wahrnehmen.
>>
>>Frank,
>>
>>There are no automatic priveleges, except the honour, connected to the World
>>Championship title. It isn't a candidate tournament. The opinion of the
>>programmers are important, but ultimately it's a decision that BGN must make.
>>That is, if they're capable of coming up with a lucid thought among them.
>>
>>I hope they refrain from using a basement tournament as their method of finding
>>the challenger. In principle all chess programs should be allowed to participate
>>in a candidate cycle, but that is hardly a realistic option.
>>
>>What are the requirements for having a shot at the match against Kramnik? The
>>incomplete SSDF list? The ten best programs awarded with points from the latest
>>major tournaments?
>>
>>There are more questions than answers IMO. Therefore I find the proposed match
>>to be quite ludicrous at the moment.
>>
>>Mogens.
>
>Hi Mogens,
>
>yes I understand your opinion.
>Here I agree to 80% :-)
>
>What do you thinking about his ...
>
>We playing a big a very big and great / fantastic event.
>
>*** WM 2001 ***
>
>The firms which have interest to give mony for a match Kramnik - Computer
>program give also money for a high quality tournament organisation.
>
>I think this idea is better for computer chess (hope to find more people which
>have interest on computer chess programs). Furthermore, better as a tournament
>from Enrique and also all programmers which have interest can play this new and
>great WM 2001 !
>
>BTW: But I think Shredder must play :-))
>
>Best
>Frank

Guys, you are overdoing it. Do I have to remind how Kramnik "qualified"
to play Kasparov?
Here is an idea: Shredder against Gaviota, my program (because I say so). The
loser gets the purse and the right to challenge Kramnik. The winner plays
Shirov for a sandwich.

Regards,
Miguel



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