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Subject: Re: Deep Shredder vs. Vladimir Kramnik ... what thinking the programmers of

Author: Frank Quisinsky

Date: 16:00:10 04/14/01

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On April 14, 2001 at 18:42:49, Miguel A. Ballicora wrote:

>On April 14, 2001 at 16:10:30, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>
>>On April 14, 2001 at 14:22:41, Mogens Larsen wrote:
>>
>>>On April 14, 2001 at 13:18:41, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>>>
>>>>Mogens,
>>>>
>>>>ich wäre sehr enttäuscht wenn hier die Programmierer alle ein Anrecht darauf
>>>>hegen würden gegen Kramnik zu spielen. Die Frage stellt sich nicht.
>>>>
>>>>Spielt denn Ehre heute überhaupt keine Rolle mehr ?
>>>>
>>>>Wenn ich bei mehreren wichtigen Turnieren nicht gewinnen konnte, würde mir nicht
>>>>im Traum einfallen zu sagen ... ich will jetzt aber gegen Kramnik spielen oder
>>>>eine Quallifikation muß her.
>>>>
>>>>Das sagt doch nur ein schlechter Verlierer.
>>>>Machen wir uns doch nichts vor.
>>>>
>>>>Alle anderen Ausreden sind lächerlich und sprechen nicht für Ehrgefühl.
>>>>
>>>>Ich bin gespannt was die Programmierer selbst sagen.
>>>>Es kann nur ehrenhaft sein zu sagen:
>>>>
>>>>"Stefan hat alles gewonnen er muß uns vertreten"
>>>>
>>>>Kommt das nicht scheint das liebe Geld doch wichtiger zu sein als Ehrgefühl.
>>>>Dies ist zwar auch nichts besonderes in der Gesellschaft aber solange es
>>>>Möglichkeiten gibt einzuwirken sollten wir diese wahrnehmen.
>>>
>>>Frank,
>>>
>>>There are no automatic priveleges, except the honour, connected to the World
>>>Championship title. It isn't a candidate tournament. The opinion of the
>>>programmers are important, but ultimately it's a decision that BGN must make.
>>>That is, if they're capable of coming up with a lucid thought among them.
>>>
>>>I hope they refrain from using a basement tournament as their method of finding
>>>the challenger. In principle all chess programs should be allowed to participate
>>>in a candidate cycle, but that is hardly a realistic option.
>>>
>>>What are the requirements for having a shot at the match against Kramnik? The
>>>incomplete SSDF list? The ten best programs awarded with points from the latest
>>>major tournaments?
>>>
>>>There are more questions than answers IMO. Therefore I find the proposed match
>>>to be quite ludicrous at the moment.
>>>
>>>Mogens.
>>
>>Hi Mogens,
>>
>>yes I understand your opinion.
>>Here I agree to 80% :-)
>>
>>What do you thinking about his ...
>>
>>We playing a big a very big and great / fantastic event.
>>
>>*** WM 2001 ***
>>
>>The firms which have interest to give mony for a match Kramnik - Computer
>>program give also money for a high quality tournament organisation.
>>
>>I think this idea is better for computer chess (hope to find more people which
>>have interest on computer chess programs). Furthermore, better as a tournament
>>from Enrique and also all programmers which have interest can play this new and
>>great WM 2001 !
>>
>>BTW: But I think Shredder must play :-))
>>
>>Best
>>Frank
>
>Guys, you are overdoing it. Do I have to remind how Kramnik "qualified"
>to play Kasparov?
>Here is an idea: Shredder against Gaviota, my program (because I say so). The
>loser gets the purse and the right to challenge Kramnik. The winner plays
>Shirov for a sandwich.
>
>Regards,
>Miguel

Miguel,

what do you saying :-))
I think I must programming my chess program. Unfortunately, I little bit Cobol
is not good enough for computer chess.

But maybe ...
In the next years I play against Gaviota and win the sandwich :-))

Best for you and good luck with your program, hope I see your program in one of
the next computer chess events.

Best
Frank



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