Author: stuart taylor
Date: 18:12:15 04/14/01
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On April 14, 2001 at 17:25:10, Uri Blass wrote: >On April 14, 2001 at 17:08:43, Rajen Gupta wrote: > >>i've noticed ever since i've been following computer chess that there is a >>programming cycle at the end of which a particular programme gets exhausted and >>then reaches a plateau.presumably the programmer has milked everything possible >>from the programming technique he uses for his programme, after which unless he >>tries something new, there is a flat line.this is esp true for the >>champions-once a champion has lost his crown, he never makes a comeback; remains >>a has been-genius; mcpro; rebel; hiarcs, > now fritz is struggling to retain its >>top spot with the twin assault from the 2 tigers! > >I do not see it. >Genius was top programs for years and I believe that the reason it stopped to be >a top program is the fact that richard lang stopped to develop his program. > >Mchesspro or Rebel were not number 1 in computer chess. > >After Genius came Fritz and it is basically number 1 for years. > >Chessmaster,Hiarcs and tiger were in the top of the ssdf list for a short time >but most of the time Fritz is number 1. > >Fritz is often number 1 with a significant difference in rating relative to >other programs when other programs became number 1 with only a small difference. > >I also expect Deep fritz to fight for the top with the tigers. >The tigers are better at blitz but based on results that I saw in the rebel site >the difference is smaller at longer time control and it is not clear if the >tigers are better than Deep Fritz at tournament time control(we need >to wait for the ssdf) > >I do not see the wall of Fritz and I expect it to continue to get better, >> >>wonder who's going to displace chris theron in 2-3 yrs time? > > >I wonder if Tiger is going to be better than Fritz. >Even if tiger is better than Deep Fritz on one processor tiger is newer than >Fritz so it has the advantage. > >Tiger12 also topped the ssdf list because the version that was tested at that >time was Fritz5.32 and not Fritz6a. > >Program that is newer by some monthes have the advantage so even if Tiger is >better than Deep Fritz it does not mean that tiger is better than Fritz engine >of 2.4.2001 > >Uri I had observed that Hiarcs was a long-time top. That includes many times on the ssdf as well as overwhelmingly so, almost always, for a very long time, on the ss list (selective search). It is only now with 6a, that Fritz has ever really been top. In the days of the famous Fritz 3, it was really Genius 3 that was clearly stronger (though there was much more hype over the Fritz). S.Taylor
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