Author: Chessfun
Date: 18:54:01 04/14/01
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On April 14, 2001 at 21:44:45, Frank Quisinsky wrote: >On April 14, 2001 at 21:29:07, Chessfun wrote: > >>On April 14, 2001 at 19:14:48, Frank Quisinsky wrote: >>> >>>i have also enough results :-) >>> >>>Example (Gandalf) at the moment: >>>54% vs. Fritz 6a / Deep Fritz >>>69% vs. Nimzo 2000b / 7-32 / 8 >>>56% vs. Junior 6a >>>46% vs. Shredder 5.0 >>>48% vs. Chess Tiger 13.0 >>>55% vs. Gambit-Tiger 1.0 >>> >>>Results with longer time controls from different people !! >> >>Amazing results, they certainly look nothing like mine. >>How many games from each make up these percentages, what are the >>time controls, computers etc, source of the games. etc. > >You have a chance to visit all computer chess fora and you can also make a >notice. I must not search all results the long day. You know the Gandalf Beta >test forum, visit my webpage, the Gambit-Soft forum. All is not a problem. > >>>Is Gandalf now the best program and say Steen ... hey my program must play >>>against Kramnik :-)) >> >>It isn't the best. >> >>>I don`t know ! >> >>I do. >> >>What is interesting Frank is by your own rating list Fritz 6 and >>Deep Fritz are #1 and #2. While Gandalf is 4. >>Funny you see the argument based on your rating list for Gandalf >>but not for Fritz?..hmmm. > >Hi Sarah, > >yes, Gandalf is not the number one in my list, Fritz is the number one. Fritz 6a >must now play against Little Goliath and Gambit-Tiger. Fritz losed against >Gromit with 3:5 ! Fritz have problems against LGoliath and I believe that Fritz >lose ELO in my next calculation. > >Example: > >Gandalf have not very big problems against Fritz, clear more as 50% ! >But Fritz is better as Gandalf when I added all results, also against amateur >programs in my list. > >What do you thinking about one match: > >Chess Tiger beat Shredder with 40:20 ! >This allone is not interesting, this allone say me Shredder have problems >against Chess Tiger, not more Sarah ! I agree of course. >And now the following questions: >If Enrique the latest tourney played with Gromit and Goliath, do you think that >Fritz also won the tourney ? Actually if enough games are played yes. But the point being noted in the other example works. >This is the question. >We have 5 very very strong programs, in my opinion: > >Shredder, Tiger, Gandalf, Junior and Fritz (maybe Chessmaster and Rebel have >here not enough results). > >All this programs play better or not better vs. program a or b. So Crafty have >big problems against Fritz not against Gandalf and and and ... > >No person can sure say program x is the best program Sarah. We all have not the >playing strong for say this, OK I say in the past that Gandalf is the best >program ... also not right, more because I like this program and I have very >good results to say this, but is not 100% right. If the organizers wish to use SMP 8 cpu's IMO there are only 4 choices. Deep Fritz, Deep Junior, Deep Shredder and SMP Crafty. Crafty performs very well in the human comp area check out ICC sometime. There is time to run a tournament which will determine which program comp v comp is stronger. This will not tell us which will do better against a human, but under the assumption that organizing an event in which humans also play isn't viable due to time limitations, it's the best we have. And as it would be a comp v comp comparison I would change to Deep Fritz v Deep Junior as Shredder will not meet the conditions and Crafty will not win such a comp v comp match IMO. Sarah.
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