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Subject: Re: If you want to solve one mate...

Author: leonid

Date: 18:54:40 04/14/01

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On April 14, 2001 at 20:24:42, Paul wrote:

>On April 14, 2001 at 19:59:43, leonid wrote:
>
>>On April 14, 2001 at 18:12:25, Paul wrote:
>>
>>>On April 14, 2001 at 17:45:47, leonid wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi, Paul!
>>>>
>>>>After my last message put my computer to work. I found that mate in 10 don't
>>>>existe. Took 1 h 11 min. Before I was very close to respose for 10 moves. So,
>>>>mate should be between 11 and 13 moves.
>>>>
>>>>I am not sure if I will ask my computer to search for 11. Branching factor
>>>>slightly jumped for 10 moves and now 11 moves expected to take (on 600Mhz) 8
>>>>hours. For 12 moves I can't even dream. Only much speedier computer and program
>>>>that use a lot of hash could go that far. I still hope that somebody will come
>>>>with final response.
>>>>
>>>>Salut,
>>>>Leonid.
>>>
>>>Buon Geronimo Leonid,
>>>
>>>maybe you could download Chest from the net somewhere and try that? I know, it
>>>isn't as much fun as using your own program ... but Heiner seems to be on a
>>>vacation. :) It's a difficult problem to solve, this last one!
>>>
>>>Well, I'm off to install some more of my software, all hardware is responding ok
>>>now (I think), even my network is up and running again ... reboot, reboot!!
>>>
>>>Dobre Djen ...
>>>Paul
>>
>>My biggest problem is absence of free computer. The last time when I had some
>>trouble with my AMD 400Mhz, I was cut from civilized world for around one month.
>>After paying my taxes, I expect to arrange my second computer. I need this for
>>starting long time waited programming for Linux and for having one computer just
>>for chess. In my family I have already three persons that are competing for the
>>same computer. The fourth one, my wife, already started to make some gesture and
>>noises that make me think that she will the the fourth one.
>>
>>Dobriy vetcher (good evening),
>>Leonid.
>
>Hey ... this is a good way to learn yet another language, drop in a few words of
>Russian every now and then! :) I understand your situation better now ... I have
>my 2 computers all to myself, and one is even off most of the time!

Take care! Don't come to close to languages. It could be deadly attractive.
Since I bought one excellent book about origin of Chinese language (three years
ago) I am very much in learning it. And Chinese is not the only one. Vision that
new language bring to us can be too overwhelming to withstand. Sometime
seduction work and bring us to some new places. Then it is difficult to come
back and add some new lines to your code.


>I just looked around on my computer and still have the sources for Chest 3.19,
>but no executable, and can't compile/link at the moment, but will experiment a
>bit the coming days, since it's Ansi C, so it should compile ok ... I've never
>seen Chest in action!

Maybe you are like me and is ready to use only program with interface. This is
why I went to see this position only on Genius 2.

>Pretz has been running for the last 45 minutes with different settings, found
>the solution a lot faster, just over 3 minutes now, but no shorter mate
>unfortunately:

Sometime different selective search are efficent in different positions. What
mine not found could be easely found by some other program. It is still possible
that this position is in reality mate in 13.


>03:19 WM13 10 Qxg8+ Qhxg8 Ng6+ Kh7 Nxe5+ Qfxe4 Qcxe4+ Kh8 Ng6+ Kh7 Nxe7+ Kh8
>Ng6+ Kh7 Ne5+ Nxe4 Qxe4+ Qxe4 Bxe4+ Kh8 Nhf7+ Qxf7 Nxf7+ Kg8 cxd8=Q#
>
>Well ... I'm off to bed, so it's shutdown for Pretz now too ...
>
>Have a nice Easter with your family ...

The same for you and have a good night!

Leonid.

>Paul



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