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Subject: Re: Deep Shredder vs. Vladimir Kramnik ... what thinking the programmers of

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 00:03:51 04/15/01

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On April 14, 2001 at 20:17:28, Mike S. wrote:

>On April 14, 2001 at 19:31:18, Ed Schröder wrote:
>
>>(...)
>>Programmers have all things in their own control, the operator, the hardware
>>and book preparation.
>
>On this occasion, I'd like to add my user's or customer's viewpoint (not related
>to the Kramnik match directly): It's not particular attractive for the standard
>chess program user IMO, if these aspects you mention, are decisive for the
>performance in important tournaments, which can decide the "fate" of chess
>programs.
>
>I understand that most up-to-date hardware is used in such events and I think
>this is fine (I'll always be at least one CPU generation behind), but things
>like operator skill or opening preparation against the next program can result
>in an additional difference of performance (which is what they aim for of course
>:o), which does not exist when I go to the shop and have a number of "out of the
>box" versions to install, between these programs then.
>
>I realise that you are probably not the person to direct these remarks at, but I
>think you are certainly used to think from a customers viewpoint, so I am
>interested in your opinion about "out of the box"-performance versus "complete
>tournament opportunities"-performance.
>
>(The question is even somewhat related to the upcoming Kramnik match, because
>presence of the programmers in the qualifying event was requested by others.)
>
>Thanks,
>Michael Scheidl


Hi Michael,

World championships (comp-comp) or any programmer tournament (Paderborn,
Dutch Open etc.), human-comp matches (Rebel-v/d Wiel etc.) are never nor
ever have been "out-of-the-box" tournaments.

Special books, special settings, the quality of the operator often are
decisive items.

Ed




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