Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 01:37:30 04/15/01
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On April 14, 2001 at 18:22:21, Uri Blass wrote:
>On April 14, 2001 at 17:49:49, Rajen Gupta wrote:
>
>>On April 14, 2001 at 17:25:10, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On April 14, 2001 at 17:08:43, Rajen Gupta wrote:
>>>
>>>>i've noticed ever since i've been following computer chess that there is a
>>>>programming cycle at the end of which a particular programme gets exhausted and
>>>>then reaches a plateau.presumably the programmer has milked everything possible
>>>>from the programming technique he uses for his programme, after which unless he
>>>>tries something new, there is a flat line.this is esp true for the
>>>>champions-once a champion has lost his crown, he never makes a comeback; remains
>>>>a has been-genius; mcpro; rebel; hiarcs,
>>> now fritz is struggling to retain its
>>>>top spot with the twin assault from the 2 tigers!
>>>
>>>I do not see it.
>>>Genius was top programs for years and I believe that the reason it stopped to be
>>>a top program is the fact that richard lang stopped to develop his program.
>>HI URI:
>>
>>DID IT STOP IMPROVING BECAUSE HE STOPPED DEVELOPING IT OR IS IT THE OTHER WAY
>>ROUND AS MOST PEOPLE THINK? HE CONTINUES TO DEVELOP GENIUS FOR HAND HELDS
>>THOUGH, WHERE THERE ISN'T MUCH HEAT !
Richard Lang sells Genius for Palm, which has the code of the Mephisto Roma.
Reminder: this is a program from 1987. Great developpement for computer chess!
:)
BTW ChessGenius for Palm is an excellent engine. But it's not a new engine,
that's what I mean.
Christophe
> GENIUS 3 WAS THE BEST BUT HE SUBSEQUENTLY
>>RELEASED 4, 5. 6 AND 6.5 ALL OF WHICH WERE SAME OR SLIGHTLY WEAKER THAN G3
>
>I do not think that he continued to develop it.
>I think that he sold people the illusion that he continued to develop it.
>
>>
>>REBEL 8 WAS NUMBER 1 AND ALL SUBSEQUENT REBELS HAVE REMAINED ROUGHLY SAME
>>STRENGHTH.
>
>Did you test Century3 against Rebel8 in order to find out?
>>
>>MCP MAY NOT HAVE BEEN 1 BUT BUT IT WAS 2 AND IT FAILED TO IMPROVE AFTER NUMBER
>>6.IT HAS NOW CEASED PRODUCTION.
>>
>>NIMZO 7.32 AND 8 ARE EXACTLY EQUAL. CHESSMASTER 5000 ONWARDS I GUESS ARE
>>BASICALLY UNIMPROVED.
>>
>>FRTIZ HAS CERTAINLY NOT REACHED A WALL AND MAY CONTINUE AT NUMBER 1 FOR A LONG
>>TIME BUT LIKE ALL OTHERS WILL EVENTUALLY REACH A WALL-MY PREDICTION.
>>
>>ONE GOOD THING I LIKE ABOUT HIARCS IS THAT IT RELEASES NEWER VERSIONS ONLY IF
>>THEY ARE STRONGER THAN THE PLDER ONES UNLIKE SOME OF THE ''TOP PROGRAMMERS'' WHO
>>KEEP RELEASING THE SAME OLD WINE IN NEW BOTTLES EVERY YEAR.
>
>It is the same for Junior.
>
>Uri
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