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Subject: Re: Latest millenium news?

Author: Chessfun

Date: 06:30:28 04/15/01

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On April 15, 2001 at 05:32:48, Mogens Larsen wrote:

>On April 14, 2001 at 21:54:01, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>If the organizers wish to use SMP 8 cpu's IMO there are only 4 choices.
>>Deep Fritz, Deep Junior, Deep Shredder and SMP Crafty.
>>Crafty performs very well in the human comp area check out ICC sometime.
>>
>>There is time to run a tournament which will determine which program comp
>>v comp is stronger. This will not tell us which will do better against a human,
>>but under the assumption that organizing an event in which humans also play
>>isn't viable due to time limitations, it's the best we have.
>>
>>And as it would be a comp v comp comparison I would change to Deep Fritz v Deep
>>Junior as Shredder will not meet the conditions and Crafty will not win such a
>>comp v comp match IMO.
>
>That is nonsensical IMO. Then the purpose of the "qualification" round has
>already been fulfilled. The choice boils down to a ChessBase product in the end,
>which is hardly in the spirit of such a contest. Especially since it's taking
>place in closed quarters. Not very glamourous or fair to say the least.


There are only a few SMP capable programs and setting up a tournament in public
requires organization, time and money. An organization in this case that don't
exist, so no time nor money.


>No, the smartest thing to do would be to make a deadline for entry of SMP
>capable programs (and there are more than the ones you mention, even without
>your personal selection process), arrange a contest in public (maybe a
>University with capable and identical machinery) and find the challenger with a
>reasonable tournament format. I'm sure Millennium and others would pay if the
>openness of the event was secured.


From what I read at Millennium I don't think they are open to playing any
type of qualifying event.


>This is the best way to handle a competition of this nature. High entrance fees,
>strange screening processes and secrecy is not. I'm surprised that you find a
>tournament run by Enrique to be a reasonable solution. It's an amateur
>arrangement at best.


I think in the case, Kramnik has control and regardless the program needs
to be selected as quickly as possible before the possibility of the match fades
out. I see nothing wrong with a tourney being run by an outside party to
determine which program is best. Whether the arrangement be termed amateur or
not Enrique presents them in a very professional way.

Sarah.



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