Author: Chessfun
Date: 11:44:27 04/15/01
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On April 15, 2001 at 11:51:07, Ed Schröder wrote: >On April 15, 2001 at 09:30:28, Chessfun wrote: > >>On April 15, 2001 at 05:32:48, Mogens Larsen wrote: >> >>>On April 14, 2001 at 21:54:01, Chessfun wrote: >>> >>>>If the organizers wish to use SMP 8 cpu's IMO there are only 4 choices. >>>>Deep Fritz, Deep Junior, Deep Shredder and SMP Crafty. >>>>Crafty performs very well in the human comp area check out ICC sometime. >>>> >>>>There is time to run a tournament which will determine which program comp >>>>v comp is stronger. This will not tell us which will do better against a human, >>>>but under the assumption that organizing an event in which humans also play >>>>isn't viable due to time limitations, it's the best we have. >>>> >>>>And as it would be a comp v comp comparison I would change to Deep Fritz v Deep >>>>Junior as Shredder will not meet the conditions and Crafty will not win such a >>>>comp v comp match IMO. >>> >>>That is nonsensical IMO. Then the purpose of the "qualification" round has >>>already been fulfilled. The choice boils down to a ChessBase product in the end, >>>which is hardly in the spirit of such a contest. Especially since it's taking >>>place in closed quarters. Not very glamourous or fair to say the least. >> >> >>There are only a few SMP capable programs and setting up a tournament in public >>requires organization, time and money. An organization in this case that don't >>exist, so no time nor money. >> >> >>>No, the smartest thing to do would be to make a deadline for entry of SMP >>>capable programs (and there are more than the ones you mention, even without >>>your personal selection process), arrange a contest in public (maybe a >>>University with capable and identical machinery) and find the challenger with a >>>reasonable tournament format. I'm sure Millennium and others would pay if the >>>openness of the event was secured. >> >> >>From what I read at Millennium I don't think they are open to playing any >>type of qualifying event. >> >> >>>This is the best way to handle a competition of this nature. High entrance fees, >>>strange screening processes and secrecy is not. I'm surprised that you find a >>>tournament run by Enrique to be a reasonable solution. It's an amateur >>>arrangement at best. >> >> >>I think in the case, Kramnik has control and regardless the program needs >>to be selected as quickly as possible before the possibility of the match fades >>out. I see nothing wrong with a tourney being run by an outside party to >>determine which program is best. Whether the arrangement be termed amateur or >>not Enrique presents them in a very professional way. >> >>Sarah. > > >Hi Sarah, > >You are forgetting an important issue, not mentioned yet in this discussion. > >Whenever I have to put $5000 on the table the least thing I want to have is >the full responsibility for that. The idea to donate $5000 and then wait for >the message, "you have won" or "you have lost" isn't exactly appealing. Granted it isn't, but if those are the terms put forward you either choose to accept or decline. Naturally you can argue in between though in this case I'm not sure who the argument is with. Also I am myself curious about the $5,000.00 and the purpose of it? >What I want for the money is my own chosen operator, my own book, optimal >hardware, my own settings. In case I fail to qualify I can only blame myself >because I was there. > >It is a not a matter of mistrust, but just being professional in what you do. Actually I prefer the idea of an outside operator. Someone who is familiar enough with the program to make it run at it's optimal settings. I also prefer that it should be a current version but I doubt that will happen. Sarah.
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