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Subject: Re: Latest millenium news?

Author: Bertil Eklund

Date: 14:37:05 04/15/01

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On April 15, 2001 at 12:54:17, Sandro Necchi wrote:

>On April 15, 2001 at 09:44:52, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>On April 15, 2001 at 03:33:05, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>>
>>>On April 15, 2001 at 03:29:39, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 15, 2001 at 03:05:47, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 14, 2001 at 21:11:41, Chessfun wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On April 14, 2001 at 18:06:44, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hello Christophe,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>the first, a good answere !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I have already given my point of view on this issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This is right.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>In short:
>>>>>>>>1) I still do not understand the arbitrary choice of Deep Fritz, Deep Junior and
>>>>>>>>Deep Shredder
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I agreed full with you !
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>That isn't what I've been reading till now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>2) Why is the winner of such a closed tournament supposed to perform the best
>>>>>>>>against a player of a totally different kind?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Also this is right !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>But which qualification is better as all the tourneys which Shredder won ?
>>>>>>>We have no a better compare !
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If we look at the facts forget all thse other titles you keep claiming Frank,
>>>>>>Shredder only won one as a SMP machine. So, you have a program that should play
>>>>>>after winning one 10 round or so tourney?.
>>>>>
>>>>>Shredder tournament version won all the tournaments since 1999! No other
>>>>>tournament version did the same. These are facts, the rest are words.
>>>>>Also you do not have our latest version. How can you know how strong is Deep
>>>>>Shredder now?
>>>>
>>>>You also do not have the latest Deep Fritz or Deep Junior(not commercial
>>>>version).
>>>
>>>I did not say the contrary.
>>>>
>>>>We cannot know how strong are the programs now and this is the reason that we
>>>>need a tournament to decide about the player who plays against kramnik.
>>>
>>>No I desagree. After the tournament one programmer may make further
>>>improvements, so it will never ends.
>>>The point is that the latest tournaments were won by Shredder, so Shredder must
>>>have the right to the match. If the next title will be won by another program,
>>>that program will have the right to the next match. It is very simple!!
>>>
>>>Sandro Necchi
>>
>>Not really so simple. Given that Millennium will not comply with the stated
>>terms for such a match. If the organizers want to play the strongest program
>>now and also want the chess computer community to accept the choice not many
>>would agree on such an automatic selection.
>
>OK, as far as I am concerned, we are ready to play and win again with our latest
>version. Of course we will use our latest version.
>I do not agree with these rules, but I am not the one to decide.

Hi!

As you know, unfortunately Shredder is out, I and many others should have loved
to see a challenger match between IMO the best SMP-programs Deep-Shredder,
Deep-Fritz and Deep-Junior. Millenium couldn't accept the conditions, if this is
because of the entry-fee or any other reasons that's up to us to speculate
about.

Bertil

>Sandro Necchi
>>
>>Sarah.



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