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Subject: Re: About the qualificaton Kramnik vs computer

Author: Chessfun

Date: 18:10:02 04/15/01

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On April 15, 2001 at 19:53:31, Peter Berger wrote:

>On April 15, 2001 at 18:44:06, Bertil Eklund wrote:
>
>>
>>Here is some news about the upcoming event:
>>
>>
>>- We invited 4 programs: DB and the Deeps of Fritz, Shredder and Junior.
>>"We" is BGN and Enrique Irazoqui, with Bertil Eklund as consultant.
>>
>>- DB is obvious. Fritz has been leading everything in computer chess, short
>>of a Swiss open of 7 rounds that receives the name "world championship".
>>Shredder is strong and got the 2 last titles, whatever they mean, although
>>it never topped the SSDF list, never won long tournaments. Junior is also
>>strong, was first in the SSDF list about a year ago, won some long
>>tournaments, achieved a PR of 2702 last year in Dortmund. The rest is either
>>not strong enough or not SMP ready, which means they don't have a chance and
>>their inclusion would only increase randomness.
>>
>>- Which program is stronger against humans? Who knows and who says they do
>>differently in comp-comp as opposed to human-comp. Besides, a "candidates"
>>with 20 programs and 20 first rate GMs that consists of enough games takes
>>ages and a huge amount of money nobody mentioned.
>>
>>- The "Qualifiers" will be played in a public place (by the way, beautiful,
>>with a great view over the bay :) )
>>
>>- Programmers will send their latest babies and books, and all settings will
>>follow their instructions.
>>
>>- An international arbiter will be present for the event in case DS
>>participates. Otherwise the other two programmers don't seem to require an
>>arbiter.
>>
>>- But just in case, Bertil Eklund has been invited for the event.
>>
>>- The CadaquƩs event is not to be hold in "closed session". In fact,
>>journalists, arbiter and other visitors will be present. Press and Internet
>>coverage will be substantial.
>>
>>- Programmers are free to develop their engines until October 1st, provided
>>that they will send regular updates to Kramnik. The idea is to avoid the
>>DB-Kasparov scenario, in which Kasparov had no idea of the opponent.
>>
>>- The entry fee will be returned to the programmers that won't win the
>>Qualifiers.
>>
>>- If a programmer feels entitled to play a given human player, he is more
>>than welcome to organize the match and find the funds.
>>
>>Bertil
>
>
>
>This is simply _very_ incorrect and doesn't follow most common understanding of
>rules and justice !!
>
>My objection is mainly to Bertil Eklund and Enrique Irazoquoi who really
>_should_ know better .
>
>In fact all this hatred about Shredder showing in your message is quite telling
>, Bertil .


I think that's just the way you choose to read it.
Check this;
http://www.icdchess.com/forums/1/message.shtml?163641
That seems more of an opinion.

Sarah.





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