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Subject: Re: Latest millenium news?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 01:10:45 04/16/01

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On April 16, 2001 at 03:35:12, Sandro Necchi wrote:

>On April 16, 2001 at 03:18:07, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On April 16, 2001 at 02:22:16, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>>
>>>On April 15, 2001 at 14:56:41, Chessfun wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 15, 2001 at 12:42:05, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 15, 2001 at 09:38:15, Chessfun wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On April 15, 2001 at 03:05:47, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On April 14, 2001 at 21:11:41, Chessfun wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On April 14, 2001 at 18:06:44, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hello Christophe,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>the first, a good answere !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I have already given my point of view on this issue.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>This is right.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>In short:
>>>>>>>>>>1) I still do not understand the arbitrary choice of Deep Fritz, Deep Junior and
>>>>>>>>>>Deep Shredder
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I agreed full with you !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>That isn't what I've been reading till now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>2) Why is the winner of such a closed tournament supposed to perform the best
>>>>>>>>>>against a player of a totally different kind?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Also this is right !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>But which qualification is better as all the tourneys which Shredder won ?
>>>>>>>>>We have no a better compare !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If we look at the facts forget all thse other titles you keep claiming Frank,
>>>>>>>>Shredder only won one as a SMP machine. So, you have a program that should play
>>>>>>>>after winning one 10 round or so tourney?.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Shredder tournament version won all the tournaments since 1999! No other
>>>>>>>tournament version did the same. These are facts, the rest are words.
>>>>>>>Also you do not have our latest version. How can you know how strong is Deep
>>>>>>>Shredder now?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Sandro Necchi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I do not have either the latest Deep Fritz or Deep Junior version....same thing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If you won't comply with the stated rules anyway and the others will, then you
>>>>>>automatically in this case disqualify yourself so regardless of how much better
>>>>>>the current version is to the released version it's mute.
>>>>>
>>>>>I think you are disqualifying the world champion title.
>>>>>
>>>>>that's all.
>>>>>
>>>>>Sandro
>>>>
>>>>Actually I couldn't care who the World Champion was. I want to see the strongest
>>>>possible Computer v Humans play.
>>>
>>>Yes, because you do not work for one year to win a tournament and so you do not
>>>know what it means!
>>
>>I think that exactly for this reason there should be a tournament to decide
>>about the program to play against Kramnik.
>
>Sorry I do not agree.
>All this would cost money and time.
>>
>>It was not known before WCCC that this tournament is for the right to play
>>against kramnik.
>
>Yes, but still the world title should mean something.
>>
>>If it is agreed before the tournament that winning WCCC gives the program the
>>right to play a match against kramnik in 2001 then I have no problem with it but
>>thinks like this should be agreed before the tournament so everyone knows before
>>it what the results of the tournament mean.
>
>Well, looking the conditions they ask I do not agree to partecipate. That's not
>chess.

I understand
I think that the main problem is the fact that they ask to send a copy of the
program to kramnik.

I believe that kramnik is going to win easily with these conditions
I hope that Fritz and Junior will also refuse to participate in this joke.

I think that a match when the program is public to the opponent should be made
only after Kramnik is losing to the program that is not public to him.

Uri



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