Author: Uri Blass
Date: 01:10:45 04/16/01
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On April 16, 2001 at 03:35:12, Sandro Necchi wrote: >On April 16, 2001 at 03:18:07, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On April 16, 2001 at 02:22:16, Sandro Necchi wrote: >> >>>On April 15, 2001 at 14:56:41, Chessfun wrote: >>> >>>>On April 15, 2001 at 12:42:05, Sandro Necchi wrote: >>>> >>>>>On April 15, 2001 at 09:38:15, Chessfun wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On April 15, 2001 at 03:05:47, Sandro Necchi wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On April 14, 2001 at 21:11:41, Chessfun wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On April 14, 2001 at 18:06:44, Frank Quisinsky wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Hello Christophe, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>the first, a good answere ! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>I have already given my point of view on this issue. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>This is right. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>In short: >>>>>>>>>>1) I still do not understand the arbitrary choice of Deep Fritz, Deep Junior and >>>>>>>>>>Deep Shredder >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I agreed full with you ! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>That isn't what I've been reading till now. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>2) Why is the winner of such a closed tournament supposed to perform the best >>>>>>>>>>against a player of a totally different kind? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Also this is right ! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>But which qualification is better as all the tourneys which Shredder won ? >>>>>>>>>We have no a better compare ! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>If we look at the facts forget all thse other titles you keep claiming Frank, >>>>>>>>Shredder only won one as a SMP machine. So, you have a program that should play >>>>>>>>after winning one 10 round or so tourney?. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Shredder tournament version won all the tournaments since 1999! No other >>>>>>>tournament version did the same. These are facts, the rest are words. >>>>>>>Also you do not have our latest version. How can you know how strong is Deep >>>>>>>Shredder now? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Sandro Necchi >>>>>> >>>>>>I do not have either the latest Deep Fritz or Deep Junior version....same thing. >>>>>> >>>>>>If you won't comply with the stated rules anyway and the others will, then you >>>>>>automatically in this case disqualify yourself so regardless of how much better >>>>>>the current version is to the released version it's mute. >>>>> >>>>>I think you are disqualifying the world champion title. >>>>> >>>>>that's all. >>>>> >>>>>Sandro >>>> >>>>Actually I couldn't care who the World Champion was. I want to see the strongest >>>>possible Computer v Humans play. >>> >>>Yes, because you do not work for one year to win a tournament and so you do not >>>know what it means! >> >>I think that exactly for this reason there should be a tournament to decide >>about the program to play against Kramnik. > >Sorry I do not agree. >All this would cost money and time. >> >>It was not known before WCCC that this tournament is for the right to play >>against kramnik. > >Yes, but still the world title should mean something. >> >>If it is agreed before the tournament that winning WCCC gives the program the >>right to play a match against kramnik in 2001 then I have no problem with it but >>thinks like this should be agreed before the tournament so everyone knows before >>it what the results of the tournament mean. > >Well, looking the conditions they ask I do not agree to partecipate. That's not >chess. I understand I think that the main problem is the fact that they ask to send a copy of the program to kramnik. I believe that kramnik is going to win easily with these conditions I hope that Fritz and Junior will also refuse to participate in this joke. I think that a match when the program is public to the opponent should be made only after Kramnik is losing to the program that is not public to him. Uri
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