Author: Sandro Necchi
Date: 05:10:47 04/16/01
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On April 16, 2001 at 04:10:45, Uri Blass wrote: >On April 16, 2001 at 03:35:12, Sandro Necchi wrote: > >>On April 16, 2001 at 03:18:07, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On April 16, 2001 at 02:22:16, Sandro Necchi wrote: >>> >>>>On April 15, 2001 at 14:56:41, Chessfun wrote: >>>> >>>>>On April 15, 2001 at 12:42:05, Sandro Necchi wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On April 15, 2001 at 09:38:15, Chessfun wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On April 15, 2001 at 03:05:47, Sandro Necchi wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On April 14, 2001 at 21:11:41, Chessfun wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On April 14, 2001 at 18:06:44, Frank Quisinsky wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Hello Christophe, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>the first, a good answere ! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>I have already given my point of view on this issue. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>This is right. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>In short: >>>>>>>>>>>1) I still do not understand the arbitrary choice of Deep Fritz, Deep Junior and >>>>>>>>>>>Deep Shredder >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>I agreed full with you ! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>That isn't what I've been reading till now. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>2) Why is the winner of such a closed tournament supposed to perform the best >>>>>>>>>>>against a player of a totally different kind? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Also this is right ! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>But which qualification is better as all the tourneys which Shredder won ? >>>>>>>>>>We have no a better compare ! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>If we look at the facts forget all thse other titles you keep claiming Frank, >>>>>>>>>Shredder only won one as a SMP machine. So, you have a program that should play >>>>>>>>>after winning one 10 round or so tourney?. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Shredder tournament version won all the tournaments since 1999! No other >>>>>>>>tournament version did the same. These are facts, the rest are words. >>>>>>>>Also you do not have our latest version. How can you know how strong is Deep >>>>>>>>Shredder now? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Sandro Necchi >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I do not have either the latest Deep Fritz or Deep Junior version....same thing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>If you won't comply with the stated rules anyway and the others will, then you >>>>>>>automatically in this case disqualify yourself so regardless of how much better >>>>>>>the current version is to the released version it's mute. >>>>>> >>>>>>I think you are disqualifying the world champion title. >>>>>> >>>>>>that's all. >>>>>> >>>>>>Sandro >>>>> >>>>>Actually I couldn't care who the World Champion was. I want to see the strongest >>>>>possible Computer v Humans play. >>>> >>>>Yes, because you do not work for one year to win a tournament and so you do not >>>>know what it means! >>> >>>I think that exactly for this reason there should be a tournament to decide >>>about the program to play against Kramnik. >> >>Sorry I do not agree. >>All this would cost money and time. >>> >>>It was not known before WCCC that this tournament is for the right to play >>>against kramnik. >> >>Yes, but still the world title should mean something. >>> >>>If it is agreed before the tournament that winning WCCC gives the program the >>>right to play a match against kramnik in 2001 then I have no problem with it but >>>thinks like this should be agreed before the tournament so everyone knows before >>>it what the results of the tournament mean. >> >>Well, looking the conditions they ask I do not agree to partecipate. That's not >>chess. > >I understand >I think that the main problem is the fact that they ask to send a copy of the >program to kramnik. > >I believe that kramnik is going to win easily with these conditions >I hope that Fritz and Junior will also refuse to participate in this joke. I hope so too. > >I think that a match when the program is public to the opponent should be made >only after Kramnik is losing to the program that is not public to him. Yes Uri, I agree. > >Uri Sandro
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