Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 13:24:46 04/16/01
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On April 16, 2001 at 14:58:08, Chris Taylor wrote: >On April 16, 2001 at 14:14:31, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On April 16, 2001 at 13:21:21, Chris Taylor wrote: >> >>>Let the single chip programs play. If confidence is so high that they are not >>>good enough, then fine. They are swept aside! But at least they have had their >>>chance! Ed has got a good program, so Does Christophe. Not to mention a score >>>of other programs, that given the chance to play, will at least be there! To >>>exclude them from the start of the race, is strange. Unless of course it has >>>all been decided. Hows' that for a selective search? >>>If the likes of Rebel Century or The Tigers, fail to qualify, at least you will >>>have the "Strongest" to go on and play Kramnik. And the people who say they were >>>not strong enough, will be able to say "Told you so" If one of the single chip >>>programs does win through, it will be because they had the opportunity >>>to take part. >>> >>>Chris Taylor >> >> >>I totally disagree. There is exactly _one_ program that should be playing >>Kramnik. Shredder. Shredder has won all of the recent computer chess >>tournaments. It is the current world champion. There is _absolutely_ no >>reason to suggest that a playoff for the right to play Kramnik is needed. In >>fact, the suggestion is really insulting to SMK and Shredder. If a program >>didn't participate in the last WMCCC event, then I conclude that Shredder is >>better and the author was afraid to participate and lose. And by doing that, >>he gave up the opportunity to take part in this match. >> >>I don't understand why there is _any_ sort of playoff under discussion, other >>than it is politically/marketing related. yes a newer program might be a bit >>better than the older Shredder that won the last WMCCC. But the new Shredder >>could well be better than that. closed-door back room tournaments are _not_ >>the way to handle this. >> >>The idea is embarassing, to say the least. When we won the 1983 WCCC event, >>nobody questioned who should play David Levy that year. The same logic should >>apply now, and SMK/Shredder should play, whether he uses a 486/33 or an 8-way >>xeon/900. >> >>Seems that commercial computer chess companies are just as bloodthirsty now as >>they were 20 years ago. And have just as few principles now as then. > >My only concern was the exclusion of certain programs, simply because they limp >on one leg? > >I agree with you, that Shredder is World Champ, and should shoot for Kramnik! >Since it appears that this will not happen? Sadly, a tounament will be played, >the deed is done. But only for the exclusive few? To all the rest, not even a >look in. Strange how Shredder can be let down, as well? > >Just me 10 penneth > >Chris Taylor Just goes to show that the world isn't always fair. :( I generally try to remember such things, and at some point, the "other side" will need some help. But not from me. I can't believe any of this mess is happening. I would hope the _authors_ of the programs would do the right thing themselves and simply say "my program won't participate, this is a right earned by Shredder and it is Shredder or nothing..."
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