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Subject: Re: Support 4 single chip chess v Kramnik

Author: Frank Quisinsky

Date: 16:13:26 04/16/01

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On April 16, 2001 at 14:14:31, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On April 16, 2001 at 13:21:21, Chris Taylor wrote:
>
>>Let the single chip programs play.  If confidence is so high that they are not
>>good enough, then fine.  They are swept aside!  But at least they have had their
>>chance!  Ed has got a good program, so Does Christophe.  Not to mention a score
>>of other programs, that given the chance to play, will at least be there!  To
>>exclude them from the start of the race, is strange.  Unless of course it has
>>all been decided.  Hows' that for a selective search?
>>If the likes of Rebel Century or The Tigers, fail to qualify, at least you will
>>have the "Strongest" to go on and play Kramnik. And the people who say they were
>>not strong enough, will be able to say "Told you so"  If one of the single chip
>>programs does win through, it will be because they had the opportunity
>>to take part.
>>
>>Chris Taylor
>
>
>I totally disagree.  There is exactly _one_ program that should be playing
>Kramnik.  Shredder.  Shredder has won all of the recent computer chess
>tournaments.  It is the current world champion.  There is _absolutely_ no
>reason to suggest that a playoff for the right to play Kramnik is needed.  In
>fact, the suggestion is really insulting to SMK and Shredder.  If a program
>didn't participate in the last WMCCC event, then I conclude that Shredder is
>better and the author was afraid to participate and lose.  And by doing that,
>he gave up the opportunity to take part in this match.
>
>I don't understand why there is _any_ sort of playoff under discussion, other
>than it is politically/marketing related.  yes a newer program might be a bit
>better than the older Shredder that won the last WMCCC.  But the new Shredder
>could well be better than that.  closed-door back room tournaments are _not_
>the way to handle this.

Robert,

I am glad to see the right words from now different programmers (Peter McKenzie,
others).

In my opinion is your answere the right answere.

Best
Frank


>
>The idea is embarassing, to say the least.  When we won the 1983 WCCC event,
>nobody questioned who should play David Levy that year.  The same logic should
>apply now, and SMK/Shredder should play, whether he uses a 486/33 or an 8-way
>xeon/900.
>
>Seems that commercial computer chess companies are just as bloodthirsty now as
>they were 20 years ago.  And have just as few principles now as then.



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