Author: Frank Quisinsky
Date: 16:13:26 04/16/01
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On April 16, 2001 at 14:14:31, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On April 16, 2001 at 13:21:21, Chris Taylor wrote: > >>Let the single chip programs play. If confidence is so high that they are not >>good enough, then fine. They are swept aside! But at least they have had their >>chance! Ed has got a good program, so Does Christophe. Not to mention a score >>of other programs, that given the chance to play, will at least be there! To >>exclude them from the start of the race, is strange. Unless of course it has >>all been decided. Hows' that for a selective search? >>If the likes of Rebel Century or The Tigers, fail to qualify, at least you will >>have the "Strongest" to go on and play Kramnik. And the people who say they were >>not strong enough, will be able to say "Told you so" If one of the single chip >>programs does win through, it will be because they had the opportunity >>to take part. >> >>Chris Taylor > > >I totally disagree. There is exactly _one_ program that should be playing >Kramnik. Shredder. Shredder has won all of the recent computer chess >tournaments. It is the current world champion. There is _absolutely_ no >reason to suggest that a playoff for the right to play Kramnik is needed. In >fact, the suggestion is really insulting to SMK and Shredder. If a program >didn't participate in the last WMCCC event, then I conclude that Shredder is >better and the author was afraid to participate and lose. And by doing that, >he gave up the opportunity to take part in this match. > >I don't understand why there is _any_ sort of playoff under discussion, other >than it is politically/marketing related. yes a newer program might be a bit >better than the older Shredder that won the last WMCCC. But the new Shredder >could well be better than that. closed-door back room tournaments are _not_ >the way to handle this. Robert, I am glad to see the right words from now different programmers (Peter McKenzie, others). In my opinion is your answere the right answere. Best Frank > >The idea is embarassing, to say the least. When we won the 1983 WCCC event, >nobody questioned who should play David Levy that year. The same logic should >apply now, and SMK/Shredder should play, whether he uses a 486/33 or an 8-way >xeon/900. > >Seems that commercial computer chess companies are just as bloodthirsty now as >they were 20 years ago. And have just as few principles now as then.
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