Author: Rajen Gupta
Date: 16:58:14 04/16/01
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On April 16, 2001 at 15:52:33, Peter McKenzie wrote: >I've been away from this forum for a while, is this whole thing a bad joke?? WHY DO YOU THINK IT I A JOKE? > >Otherwise it sounds like a completely ridiculous way to select an opponent for >Kramnik. WHY IS HAVING A PLAY OFF BETWEEN THE LEADING CONTENDERS CONSIDERED A RIDICULOUS WAY TO SELECT THE BEST PROGRAMME? WHAT OTHER WAY CAN YOU SUGGEST? PERHAPS BASED ON WHOSE COVER LOOKS THE PRETTIEST? Do these guys really have the 'authority' to select an opponent for >Kramnik? THE 'AUTHORITY' HAS BEEN GRANTED BY THE ORGANISERS-IN THIS CASE THE BRAIN GAMES NETWORK WHICH IS RAISING THE SPONSORSHIP NECESSARY FOR THIS MATCH.OBVIOUSLY THEY MUST HAVE DISCUSSED WITH KRAMNIK HIS WILLINGNESS TO PLAY SUCH A MATCH BEFORE COMMITTING THE RESOURCES TO ARRANGE SUCH A COSTLY VENTURE. Will a match with Kramnik really take place? HOPEFULLY IT SHOULD; UNLESS SOMETHING UNFORSEEN (EG WITHDRAWAL OF SPONSORSHIP MONEY; SUDDEN CHANGE OF MIND BY KRAMNIK) Isn't the ICCA involved >at all? NO, SINCE THEY AREN'T SPONSORING THE MATCH. > >The obvious selection to play Kramnik is Shredder, this is so clear that it is >not funny. Shredder is the current World Computer Chess Champion, and has won >the majority of important computer tournaments in recent years. IF IT IS THAT CLEAR WHY NOT ALLOW IT TO BE MATCHED AGAINST DJ AND DF. SINCE IT IS CLEARLY THE BEST IT WILL WIN ANYWAY AND GIVE US THE ADDED BENEFIT OF WATCHING ANOTHER COMP VS COMP MATCH BESIDES SETTLING ONCE AND FOR ALL WHICH IS THE STRONGEST SMP PROGRAMME. >But yes, there are many other very strong programs and a qualification event >would also be a very good alternative. BUT, 4 programs playing in some mickey >mouse tournament is not a good qualification tournament! Too me it sounds >rather sick :-(. NO DOUBT MANY STRONG SINGLE CPU PROGRAMMES BUT HOW MANY COMMERCIAL SMP PROGRAMMES? > >Firstly, any qualification tournament should be an author operated manual >tournament on hardware selected and supplied by the author. Only this way can >we be certain that each program will play at its best. AS FAR AS I KNOW MOST OF THE COMP TOURNAMENTS SUCH AS THE ONE WHICH SHREDDER WON ARE OFTEN PLAYED ON AUTO-PLAYER > >Secondly, the 4 programs are really too narrow a choice. Clearly the likes of >Tiger and Rebel should be playing. Also, there is a good case for a few other >programs such as Gandalf, Ferret, Crafty, Hiarcs, Nimzo. AGREED BUT ALL THIS HAS TO BE DONE WITHIN A TIME FRAME.HIARCS, REBEL ARE CLEARLY NOT STRONG ENOUGH (SEE LATEST SSDF RESULTS), TIGER IS LIMITED TO A SINGLE PROCESSOR; (EVEN THE BEST PROGRAMME ON A SINGLE CPU IS HARDLY A MATCH FOR AN 8 WAY XEON SYSTEM. MAYBE THERE IS A CASE FOR INCLUDING CRAFTY AND FERRET.PERHAPS THERE AUTHORS SHOULD TRY TO ENTER THE SELECTION. > >Regards, >Peter RAJEN
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