Author: Peter McKenzie
Date: 18:07:47 04/16/01
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On April 16, 2001 at 20:08:12, Rajen Gupta wrote: >On April 16, 2001 at 19:53:23, Peter McKenzie wrote: > >>On April 16, 2001 at 18:38:42, Mike S. wrote: >> >>>On April 16, 2001 at 15:52:33, Peter McKenzie wrote: >>> >>>>(...) >>>>Firstly, any qualification tournament should be an author operated manual >>>>tournament on hardware selected and supplied by the author. Only this way can >>>>we be certain that each program will play at its best. >>> >>>Do you realise that this is a double-edged sword, at least for a top class >>>commercial product? The customers don't get author operation, or hardware >>>selection and supply by the author, when they buy a program. >>> >>>So if I am repeatadly told, this program is at its best operated by its author >>>etc., I'm going to think it will not be at it's best when I use it myself on my >>>two years old computer, compared to other programs that do not claim this. It's >>>pure anti-PR. >>> >>>Although I wonder if a program calculates faster, if the author clicks the >>>mouse. :o) >> >>Very funny :-) But really, I think your joke is misplaced. >> >>Its not that the programs can't play their best when the author is not present, >>the point is that if the author is present we can be SURE that the program is >>operating conditions which are optimal for it. >> >>If the program is operated by a 3rd party, then it is still possible that the >>program is operating under optimal conditions BUT we have a number of issues: >> >>1) The 3rd party is unlikely to be as careful as the author. The author has >>invested many years in his program, and therefore has much greater motivation >>for making sure that everything is set up 100% right. All those little things >>like selecting the right book, turning pondering on, configuring for the right >>number of CPUs, setting the right hash sizes, making sure that no other >>processes are stealing CPU, making sure tablebases are installed correctly etc >>etc. >> >>Of course a 3rd party will probably get these things right, but if you had to >>bet your life on it I think you'd rather have the program author doing it. >> >>2) The author will be much more capable of diagnosing any problems than a 3rd >>party. Problems? What problems you say. Well, lets think about hardware >>problems for a start. Memory can fail from time to time, and of course hard >>drives can fail too. And how about the CPU? Remember when Ed Shroeder managed >>to demonstrate that his Kryotech chip was faulty in one of the Rebel matches? >> >>These things are somewhat rare, although they are more common on the sort of >>state of art hardware that is likely to be in use. In any case, the author is >>likely to spot the problem (and recommend a course of action) before anyone >>else. >> >>3) Fairness: of course the 3rd party should be impartial, but how can we be sure >>of this? I don't personally know the people involved in the Kramnik >>qualification match, although I assume they are probably fair and unbiased. >>However I would have alot more faith in a competition being fair if the authors >>were present because I know they are going to make sure that they are getting a >>fair deal. >> >>Its like the old saying goes: 'Justice must not only be done, it must be seen to >>be done'. >> >>That about sums it up really. >> >>Regards, >>Peter McKenzie > >HI PETER: APPARENTLY CHESSBASE IS MORE THAN HAPPY FOR ENRIQUE TO OPERATE BOTH >PROGRAMMES. IF SHREDDER AGREES TO ENTER THEN I THINK THERE IS GOING TO BE A >REPRESENTATIVE FROM MILLENIUM TO OVERSEA ITS OPERATION (OR SO I GATHER) A rEpReSeNtAtIvE fRoM MiLlEnIuM wOuLd bE a GoOd IdEa. > >IT IS CHURLISH TO CLAIM THAT PEOPLE DONT KNOW WHO ENRIQUE IS. HE IS ONE OF THE WhO mAdE sUcH a ClAiM? cErTaInLy NoT mE. >MOST IMPARTIAL, AS WELL AS RESPECTED FIGURES IN COMP CHESS BESIDES BEING AN >EXPERT IN THE FIELD. HE HAS BEEN OPERATING THE CADAQUES FOR SEVERAL YRS >INCLUDING SHREDDER AND REBEL (BOTH OF WHICH NORMALLY DONT ALLOW THEIR GAMES TO >BE PUBLISHED.) > >WHO BETTER CAN YOU THINK OF TO RUN SUCH A SELECTION? iCcA > >RAJEN
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