Author: Peter McKenzie
Date: 18:20:01 04/16/01
Go up one level in this thread
On April 16, 2001 at 19:58:14, Rajen Gupta wrote: >On April 16, 2001 at 15:52:33, Peter McKenzie wrote: > >>I've been away from this forum for a while, is this whole thing a bad joke?? > >WHY DO YOU THINK IT I A JOKE? tHe SeLeCtIoN mEtHoD sEeMs So PoOr tHaT iT iS HaRd To TaKe SeRiOuSlY! >> >>Otherwise it sounds like a completely ridiculous way to select an opponent for >>Kramnik. > >WHY IS HAVING A PLAY OFF BETWEEN THE LEADING CONTENDERS CONSIDERED A RIDICULOUS >WAY TO SELECT THE BEST PROGRAMME? WHAT OTHER WAY CAN YOU SUGGEST? PERHAPS BASED >ON WHOSE COVER LOOKS THE PRETTIEST? a FaIrEr sElEcTiOn ToUrNaMeNt WoUlD bE aCcEpTaBlE > >Do these guys really have the 'authority' to select an opponent for >>Kramnik? > >THE 'AUTHORITY' HAS BEEN GRANTED BY THE ORGANISERS-IN THIS CASE THE BRAIN GAMES >NETWORK WHICH IS RAISING THE SPONSORSHIP NECESSARY FOR THIS MATCH.OBVIOUSLY THEY >MUST HAVE DISCUSSED WITH KRAMNIK HIS WILLINGNESS TO PLAY SUCH A MATCH BEFORE >COMMITTING THE RESOURCES TO ARRANGE SUCH A COSTLY VENTURE. > >Will a match with Kramnik really take place? > >HOPEFULLY IT SHOULD; UNLESS SOMETHING UNFORSEEN (EG WITHDRAWAL OF SPONSORSHIP >MONEY; SUDDEN CHANGE OF MIND BY KRAMNIK) > >Isn't the ICCA involved >>at all? > >NO, SINCE THEY AREN'T SPONSORING THE MATCH. >> >>The obvious selection to play Kramnik is Shredder, this is so clear that it is >>not funny. Shredder is the current World Computer Chess Champion, and has won >>the majority of important computer tournaments in recent years. > >IF IT IS THAT CLEAR WHY NOT ALLOW IT TO BE MATCHED AGAINST DJ AND DF. SINCE IT >IS CLEARLY THE BEST IT WILL WIN ANYWAY AND GIVE US THE ADDED BENEFIT OF WATCHING >ANOTHER COMP VS COMP MATCH BESIDES SETTLING ONCE AND FOR ALL WHICH IS THE >STRONGEST SMP PROGRAMME. > >>But yes, there are many other very strong programs and a qualification event >>would also be a very good alternative. BUT, 4 programs playing in some mickey >>mouse tournament is not a good qualification tournament! Too me it sounds >>rather sick :-(. > >NO DOUBT MANY STRONG SINGLE CPU PROGRAMMES BUT HOW MANY COMMERCIAL SMP >PROGRAMMES? sMp iS aN iMpLeMeNtAtIoN dEtAiL, aNd ShOuLd NoT cOmE iNtO tHe SeLeCtIoN cRiTeRiA. ReSuLtS aRe WhAt MaTtErS, nOtHiNg ElSe. >> >>Firstly, any qualification tournament should be an author operated manual >>tournament on hardware selected and supplied by the author. Only this way can >>we be certain that each program will play at its best. > >AS FAR AS I KNOW MOST OF THE COMP TOURNAMENTS SUCH AS THE ONE WHICH SHREDDER WON >ARE OFTEN PLAYED ON AUTO-PLAYER IcCa tItLe ToUrNaMeNtS dO nOt UsE aUtO-pLaYeR >> >>Secondly, the 4 programs are really too narrow a choice. Clearly the likes of >>Tiger and Rebel should be playing. Also, there is a good case for a few other >>programs such as Gandalf, Ferret, Crafty, Hiarcs, Nimzo. > >AGREED BUT ALL THIS HAS TO BE DONE WITHIN A TIME FRAME.HIARCS, REBEL ARE CLEARLY >NOT STRONG ENOUGH (SEE LATEST SSDF RESULTS), TIGER IS LIMITED TO A SINGLE ReBeL SsDf ReSuLtS aRe WoRtHlEsS dUe To DoS AuToPlAyEr BuG. >PROCESSOR; (EVEN THE BEST PROGRAMME ON A SINGLE CPU IS HARDLY A MATCH FOR AN 8 >WAY XEON SYSTEM. MAYBE THERE IS A CASE FOR INCLUDING CRAFTY AND FERRET.PERHAPS HiGhLy DeBaTeAbLe PoInT. sInGlE CpU sHrEdDeR wOn 1999 wCcC vS mUlTi-cPu fRiTz & JuNiOr. >THERE AUTHORS SHOULD TRY TO ENTER THE SELECTION. >> >>Regards, >>Peter > >RAJEN
This page took 0 seconds to execute
Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700
Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.