Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 21:15:13 04/16/01
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On April 16, 2001 at 23:03:49, Chessfun wrote: >On April 16, 2001 at 22:39:58, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On April 16, 2001 at 16:39:37, Mogens Larsen wrote: >> >>>On April 16, 2001 at 16:24:46, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>Just goes to show that the world isn't always fair. :( I generally try >>>>to remember such things, and at some point, the "other side" will need some >>>>help. But not from me. I can't believe any of this mess is happening. I >>>>would hope the _authors_ of the programs would do the right thing themselves >>>>and simply say "my program won't participate, this is a right earned by >>>>Shredder and it is Shredder or nothing..." >>> >>>That would indeed be a nice gesture and in compliance with tournament results as >>>you mention. But I seriously doubt that the invited programs still left will >>>miss this golden opportunity for publicity. >>> >>>Mogens. >> >> >>Let's see if any have the courage to stand up (or sit down) and do what >>is right. I doubt it, but I might be surprised... > >In all these posts in favor of Shredder you are making, you are forgetting >one fact. They have been trying to negotiate for three months and have failed. > >What do you do when you can't reach agreement on terms? you look elsewhere, >which is exactly what has happened. > >Also who says this has to be billed as the World Champion (Human) v The world >Champion (Computer)? As I understand it they wish to play a match with the >strongest computer program, there was no requrement that a known strongest >already existed. > >Sarah. I think that the "strongest" program is quite obvious. The ACM events are played under controlled conditions with (generally) the authors or a competent representative present to run the engines. Shredder has won everything for the last 2-3 years... If SMK couldn't agree to terms, then I would agree that Kramnik should "move on" and pick another program. However, I suspect that the "sticking point" was nothing more than "How much will you pay me to play the match?" And I don't see why a "rich company" should get to replace a "poor programmer" just due to wealth... The ICCA titles _do_ mean something, since the ICCA is associated with FIDE and has sanctioning rights for the WCCC and WMCCC titles which are the only _official_ titles in computer chess.
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