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Subject: Re: Bad Joke?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 21:19:47 04/16/01

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On April 16, 2001 at 23:08:29, Chessfun wrote:

>On April 16, 2001 at 22:46:42, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On April 16, 2001 at 19:58:14, Rajen Gupta wrote:
>>
>>>On April 16, 2001 at 15:52:33, Peter McKenzie wrote:
>>>
>>>>I've been away from this forum for a while, is this whole thing a bad joke??
>>>
>>>WHY DO YOU THINK IT I A JOKE?
>>>>
>>>>Otherwise it sounds like a completely ridiculous way to select an opponent for
>>>>Kramnik.
>>>
>>>WHY IS HAVING A PLAY OFF BETWEEN THE LEADING CONTENDERS CONSIDERED A RIDICULOUS
>>>WAY TO SELECT THE BEST PROGRAMME? WHAT OTHER WAY CAN YOU SUGGEST? PERHAPS BASED
>>>ON WHOSE COVER LOOKS THE PRETTIEST?
>>
>>
>>
>>Any chance you will get your capslock key fixed?
>>
>
>Hehe
>I have noticed he always does it when replying, but not making an original post.
>
>>>
>>>Do these guys really have the 'authority' to select an opponent for
>>>>Kramnik?
>>>
>>>THE 'AUTHORITY' HAS BEEN GRANTED BY THE ORGANISERS-IN THIS CASE THE BRAIN GAMES
>>>NETWORK WHICH IS RAISING THE SPONSORSHIP NECESSARY FOR THIS MATCH.OBVIOUSLY THEY
>>>MUST HAVE DISCUSSED WITH KRAMNIK HIS WILLINGNESS TO PLAY SUCH A MATCH BEFORE
>>>COMMITTING THE RESOURCES TO ARRANGE SUCH A COSTLY VENTURE.
>>
>>Not really.  the ICCA is _the_ sanctioning body for computer chess.  If
>>Kramnik wants to play the best computer chess program in the world, the ICCA
>>should be the entity that provides that rating.  Which it does in the form of
>>two titles, either of which is presently held by Shredder.  End of story.
>>
>>Shredder is the WCCC and WMCCC title-holder.
>
>And what to do when you can't reach agreement with Shredder....look elsewhere.
>
>>>
>>>Will a match with Kramnik really take place?
>>>
>>>HOPEFULLY IT SHOULD; UNLESS SOMETHING UNFORSEEN (EG WITHDRAWAL OF SPONSORSHIP
>>>MONEY; SUDDEN CHANGE OF MIND BY KRAMNIK)
>>>
>>>Isn't the ICCA involved
>>>>at all?
>>>
>>>NO, SINCE THEY AREN'T SPONSORING THE MATCH.
>>
>>
>>But they _are_ in charge of sanctioning computer chess.  And they have a
>>working relationship with FIDE.
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>The obvious selection to play Kramnik is Shredder, this is so clear that it is
>>>>not funny.  Shredder is the current World Computer Chess Champion, and has won
>>>>the majority of important computer tournaments in recent years.
>>>
>>>IF IT IS THAT CLEAR WHY NOT ALLOW IT TO BE MATCHED AGAINST DJ AND DF. SINCE IT
>>>IS CLEARLY THE BEST IT WILL WIN ANYWAY AND GIVE US THE ADDED BENEFIT OF WATCHING
>>>ANOTHER COMP VS COMP MATCH BESIDES SETTLING ONCE AND FOR ALL WHICH IS THE
>>>STRONGEST SMP PROGRAMME.
>>
>>Shredder beat these programs a year ago in fact...
>
>How many games was that, that were played?
>Im sure the number is going to be convincing.
>And actually it won a tournament it didn't beat all individual programs.
>
>Sarah.


Look at the WCCC crosstable.  You will see shredder played _both_ and won
both games.  Two years worth of WMCCC and WCCC events was 21 games.  I don't
think it lost a _single_ game.



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