Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 22:50:56 04/16/01
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On April 16, 2001 at 21:17:32, Richard Heldmann wrote:
>On April 15, 2001 at 20:59:19, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On April 15, 2001 at 14:46:49, Richard Heldmann wrote:
>>
>>>All competitions can be rejected as too short, when the 'favorite' or your
>>>favorite or my favorite doesn't win. In sports, the better player or team does
>>>not always win the championship trophy. This happens in all the time. Shredder
>>>is the current World Champion. Shredder earned the right to play Kramnick.
>>>Where is the fallacy in this logic?
>>>
>>>I own both RTII and S5. I prefer Gambit Tiger 2.0. I was *very* disappointed
>>>when Tiger did not play in the World Championship.
>>
>>
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>>But Tiger played!
>>
>>Or am I missing something?
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>> Christophe
>
>Oops. My apologies!! I was referring to the tournament in Paderborn, not London.
>http://www.uni-paderborn.de/~IPCCC/
>
>This playoff idea has really opened up a can of worms and as Ed has said, "It
>smells." I think so too. I do not think there should be a playoff. I
>sympathize with those programmers whose programs may be excluded. How can
>*anyone* decide who plays and who does not, and also the method of deciding the
>winner? I am not making any personal negative comments about the parties
>involved, I am sure their intentions are good. I think the idea of a playoff
>should be dropped.
>
>I like the idea of a crap-shoot tournament where the programmers are directly
>involved and no hanky-panky can occur under their watchful eyes. Now just how
>does Stefan do it? ;)
>
>To suggest SSDF list is a fairer method, discounts the imperfect methods used,
>i.e. games between different speed machines and impartial operators.
The method of using different speed machines in order to get a rating has been
explained many times and is mathematically sound.
If a program A on K6-2 450 beats prog B on PPro200 by 25-15, and program C on
K6-2 450 beats prog B on PPro200 by 35-5, then prog C has done a better job and
will get more rating points (from this match) than prog A.
This is perfectly understandable and fair.
I believe the operators are fair. They are just in love with chess programs and
I don't believe one of them is such a favorite in their eyes that they would
biase the results.
If they do, anyway we will notice it.
Christophe
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