Author: Uri Blass
Date: 23:03:54 04/16/01
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On April 17, 2001 at 00:19:29, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On April 16, 2001 at 23:08:29, Chessfun wrote: > >>On April 16, 2001 at 22:46:42, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On April 16, 2001 at 19:58:14, Rajen Gupta wrote: >>> >>>>On April 16, 2001 at 15:52:33, Peter McKenzie wrote: >>>> >>>>>I've been away from this forum for a while, is this whole thing a bad joke?? >>>> >>>>WHY DO YOU THINK IT I A JOKE? >>>>> >>>>>Otherwise it sounds like a completely ridiculous way to select an opponent for >>>>>Kramnik. >>>> >>>>WHY IS HAVING A PLAY OFF BETWEEN THE LEADING CONTENDERS CONSIDERED A RIDICULOUS >>>>WAY TO SELECT THE BEST PROGRAMME? WHAT OTHER WAY CAN YOU SUGGEST? PERHAPS BASED >>>>ON WHOSE COVER LOOKS THE PRETTIEST? >>> >>> >>> >>>Any chance you will get your capslock key fixed? >>> >> >>Hehe >>I have noticed he always does it when replying, but not making an original post. >> >>>> >>>>Do these guys really have the 'authority' to select an opponent for >>>>>Kramnik? >>>> >>>>THE 'AUTHORITY' HAS BEEN GRANTED BY THE ORGANISERS-IN THIS CASE THE BRAIN GAMES >>>>NETWORK WHICH IS RAISING THE SPONSORSHIP NECESSARY FOR THIS MATCH.OBVIOUSLY THEY >>>>MUST HAVE DISCUSSED WITH KRAMNIK HIS WILLINGNESS TO PLAY SUCH A MATCH BEFORE >>>>COMMITTING THE RESOURCES TO ARRANGE SUCH A COSTLY VENTURE. >>> >>>Not really. the ICCA is _the_ sanctioning body for computer chess. If >>>Kramnik wants to play the best computer chess program in the world, the ICCA >>>should be the entity that provides that rating. Which it does in the form of >>>two titles, either of which is presently held by Shredder. End of story. >>> >>>Shredder is the WCCC and WMCCC title-holder. >> >>And what to do when you can't reach agreement with Shredder....look elsewhere. >> >>>> >>>>Will a match with Kramnik really take place? >>>> >>>>HOPEFULLY IT SHOULD; UNLESS SOMETHING UNFORSEEN (EG WITHDRAWAL OF SPONSORSHIP >>>>MONEY; SUDDEN CHANGE OF MIND BY KRAMNIK) >>>> >>>>Isn't the ICCA involved >>>>>at all? >>>> >>>>NO, SINCE THEY AREN'T SPONSORING THE MATCH. >>> >>> >>>But they _are_ in charge of sanctioning computer chess. And they have a >>>working relationship with FIDE. >>> >>> >>>>> >>>>>The obvious selection to play Kramnik is Shredder, this is so clear that it is >>>>>not funny. Shredder is the current World Computer Chess Champion, and has won >>>>>the majority of important computer tournaments in recent years. >>>> >>>>IF IT IS THAT CLEAR WHY NOT ALLOW IT TO BE MATCHED AGAINST DJ AND DF. SINCE IT >>>>IS CLEARLY THE BEST IT WILL WIN ANYWAY AND GIVE US THE ADDED BENEFIT OF WATCHING >>>>ANOTHER COMP VS COMP MATCH BESIDES SETTLING ONCE AND FOR ALL WHICH IS THE >>>>STRONGEST SMP PROGRAMME. >>> >>>Shredder beat these programs a year ago in fact... >> >>How many games was that, that were played? >>Im sure the number is going to be convincing. >>And actually it won a tournament it didn't beat all individual programs. >> >>Sarah. > > >Look at the WCCC crosstable. You will see shredder played _both_ and won >both games. Two years worth of WMCCC and WCCC events was 21 games. I don't >think it lost a _single_ game. The ssdf list is based on more games. Shredder was never number 1 in this list. It is considered to be also an important tournament and I do not see a reason to assume that the WMCCC or the WCCC are the only important tournaments. Uri
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