Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 23:18:01 04/16/01
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On April 16, 2001 at 02:22:16, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>On April 15, 2001 at 14:56:41, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>On April 15, 2001 at 12:42:05, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>>
>>>On April 15, 2001 at 09:38:15, Chessfun wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 15, 2001 at 03:05:47, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 14, 2001 at 21:11:41, Chessfun wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On April 14, 2001 at 18:06:44, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hello Christophe,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>the first, a good answere !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I have already given my point of view on this issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This is right.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>In short:
>>>>>>>>1) I still do not understand the arbitrary choice of Deep Fritz, Deep Junior and
>>>>>>>>Deep Shredder
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I agreed full with you !
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>That isn't what I've been reading till now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>2) Why is the winner of such a closed tournament supposed to perform the best
>>>>>>>>against a player of a totally different kind?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Also this is right !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>But which qualification is better as all the tourneys which Shredder won ?
>>>>>>>We have no a better compare !
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If we look at the facts forget all thse other titles you keep claiming Frank,
>>>>>>Shredder only won one as a SMP machine. So, you have a program that should play
>>>>>>after winning one 10 round or so tourney?.
>>>>>
>>>>>Shredder tournament version won all the tournaments since 1999! No other
>>>>>tournament version did the same. These are facts, the rest are words.
>>>>>Also you do not have our latest version. How can you know how strong is Deep
>>>>>Shredder now?
>>>>>
>>>>>Sandro Necchi
>>>>
>>>>I do not have either the latest Deep Fritz or Deep Junior version....same thing.
>>>>
>>>>If you won't comply with the stated rules anyway and the others will, then you
>>>>automatically in this case disqualify yourself so regardless of how much better
>>>>the current version is to the released version it's mute.
>>>
>>>I think you are disqualifying the world champion title.
>>>
>>>that's all.
>>>
>>>Sandro
>>
>>Actually I couldn't care who the World Champion was. I want to see the strongest
>>possible Computer v Humans play.
>
>Yes, because you do not work for one year to win a tournament and so you do not
>know what it means!
>
>How can you find out which is the best program?
Let the SSDF test it. You'll have a pretty good idea after some weeks.
>How many games are needed?
This can be decided mathematically. There are standard formulas.
>No programmer would let you have their F1 version to test.
When I release a version of my program it is the best that I have at that time.
Isn't it the same with Shredder?
So where is the problem?
>These are the ones that will be used in such event!
The programmers release the best they have. They do not keep the best version
secret.
>So since it is not possible to find out what you are asking,
I would say it is possible but your company (correct me if I'm wrong) has
decided to make it impossible for the SSDF to publish the true rating of
Shredder.
Christophe
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