Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 23:32:49 04/16/01
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On April 17, 2001 at 01:57:08, Miguel A. Ballicora wrote:
>On April 17, 2001 at 00:51:09, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On April 16, 2001 at 21:54:23, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>>
>>>Christophe:
>>>Your argument is somewhat biased and I understand well why, but It is not the
>>>case, in the first place, that only schreder has the chance from the blue. It
>>>will compete with other top programs. And then, talking of consistency, there is
>>>a lot of consistency in the past perfomances of Schredder to deserve the honour.
>>>Second, the fact that the current engine will be different to the same that won
>>>the past tourns has not sense. In every tourn every engine try to get the very
>>>last version, it is common and understable practice as much there is a common
>>>history from one version to the next so even with the changes you still can talk
>>>of Schredder or Tiger as one entity. Kramnik itself will be a different player
>>>from the one that because of his past perfomances will play the program.
>>>According your line of reasonning , as much schredder will compete due to his
>>>titles, he should play with the version it was used in ecah of those toruns.
>>>Schredder and any other program is, between limits, the same entity. It has an
>>>history as any living system. So changes as part of his entity.
>>>
>>>I concur anyway that a more wide tourn should be preferable, but that is less a
>>>matter of principle that a matter of practicality. Any tourn has its owns rules
>>>and limits and should be valued according to that.
>>
>>
>>
>>That's also a key point. The problem is the credibility of the event.
>>
>>What credibility would this event have if it merely ignores half of the best
>>programs out there?
>>
>>The general audience is probably going to swallow the idea of "World champion
>>against World champion". The formula is simple enough and the communication work
>>will be easier.
>>
>>But what will people think when they learn that actually the program which has
>>played is not really the best out there?
>>
>
>Objection! :-) you are speculating. You are talking like is was proven that
>Shredder is not the best.
>Anyway, it is irrelevant. Kramnik is not even the best out there. So?
>You guys are losing the sporting side of this. A Champion is
>a Champion, period.
If we are talking about sport, we are talking about fairness.
This is not fair, so I won't shut up.
Also, being a champion requires fighting spirit. I'm not sure I am a champion
(or will ever be), but I have fighting spirit, so I won't shut up (2nd reason).
Christophe
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