Author: Jonas Cohonas
Date: 02:51:26 04/17/01
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On April 17, 2001 at 05:05:02, Rajen Gupta wrote: >if one sits backand and takes a dispassionate view of the upcoming man vs >machine event i think we are all missing the woods for the trees. > >1)that Braingames has manged to get kramnik's agreement to play such a match is >itself extremely creditable; besides being able to find the necessary >sponsorship etc. Kasparov after losing to deep blue has on several occasions >refused to participate against a computer. > >2) in order to find a worhty opponent for kramnik the best commercially >available hardware/software combination needs to be found-ideally something that >a budding bobby fischer can say ''wow'' thats a neat programme i want it-and get >his mom to pop down to his friendly neighbourhood store(or cyberstore) and buy >it.with dual athlons being available in the near term even explosive hardware is >within the reach of joe public > >3) while there are a lot of strong single cpu progs that could be in contention >there is no doubt that any of the 3 SMP progs on a 8 way xeon 933 with 2mb on >die cache would clobber the best single CPU prog rather badly. > >4) currently there are only 3 commercially available SMP progs available and >they will be playing each other to find which is the best one. whats wrong with >that? if shredder is the best no doubt it will beat the other 2. if it loses >then it wasn't the strongest any way in spite of it being the world comp >champion.in the meanwhile we''l get the added benefit of enjoying a series of >smp comp vs comp matches!on top level hardware. > >5) someone needs to organise the above selection and in the considered opinion >of the sponsor braingames and perhaps their chess expert(GM Keene) enrique >irazoqui and bertil eklund are the best people to do so having had a great deal >of expertise and experience in comp chess.i dont think anyone really doubts >their personal integrity. > >6)there is obviously a time frame for such things-quite certain that kramnik as >well as the sponsors could change their minds at the drop of a hat so this has >to get going while the time is right-which menns that the time available for >testing (as well as developing the software is limited). if only one of the >above 3 was arbitrarily selected there would have been more questions as to >whether it is the srtongest. > >7)no method of testing or selection is perfect-but this seems to be quite a >reasonable method > >8) i think all of us computer chess lovers should encourage this venture raher >than trying to tear it aprt.after all if it is succesful there would hopefully >be repeat performances. > >i think its time to close this chapter and move on to other matters > >rajen Well spoken Rajen, you took the words right out of my mouth, let's just enjoy that we have a man v machine in the first place. Regards Jonas
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