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Subject: Re: Latest millenium news?

Author: Sandro Necchi

Date: 04:01:17 04/17/01

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On April 17, 2001 at 02:42:18, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On April 17, 2001 at 02:15:27, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>
>>On April 16, 2001 at 20:02:02, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>
>>>On April 16, 2001 at 03:31:12, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 16, 2001 at 02:46:59, Chessfun wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 16, 2001 at 02:13:32, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On April 15, 2001 at 14:50:33, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On April 15, 2001 at 03:05:47, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Shredder tournament version won all the tournaments since 1999! No other
>>>>>>>>tournament version did the same. These are facts, the rest are words.
>>>>>>>>Also you do not have our latest version. How can you know how strong is Deep
>>>>>>>>Shredder now?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Sandro Necchi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi Sandro,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have read Deep Blue has been invited too. What should happen if the DB
>>>>>>>people say yes and want to play Kramnik. Should we say: since DB has beaten
>>>>>>>Kasparov DB is the real and only candidate?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ed
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi Ed,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>no, I think only commercial program version like our should be used. I think
>>>>>>your 2 programs (Rebel and Chess Tiger) should be included in the list too, but
>>>>>>I am not the one that decides.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Sandro
>>>>>
>>>>>Sandro, I thought your opinion was that Shredder was the only candidate?.
>>>>>The above would indicate otherwise.
>>>>
>>>>No, if only one program should match Kramnik this is Shredder because it is the
>>>>world champion.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Then it must be the version of Shredder which played in the 2000 WMCCC, on the
>>>same hardware.
>>
>>Sorry I do not agree.
>>>
>>>Because a newer version on a different hardware (in particular on a
>>>multiprocessor computer) does NOT own any World title as far as I know.
>>
>>If you are mad because you did not win the Computer Chess World Championship is
>>not my fault.
>
>
>
>No, I'm not mad Sandro. :)

Good to hear.
>
>I have won some tournaments with my program too, and I'm fine. :)

I know.
>
>You know, there is so much randomness involved in short tournaments, they do not
>mean that much.

Yes, but to me it means a lot.
>
>
>
>
>>Since it is the only title recognized by  ICCA, for me it is the most important
>>one. So the best version of that program with the fastest hardware should be
>>used.
>>This is my opionion. Sorry.
>
>
>This is just your opinion.

Not only mine.
>
>I think that the best program of today should be used. Not just a program that
>has won a short tournament last year and has been hiding away from the SSDF
>then.

This is your opinion. Also which should be used:

The best against other chess programs or the best against kramnik?
>
>The organizers of the tournament need the best program. I they fail to select
>the best, the general audience will learn about this, and the disappointement
>will be huge.

No I think the audience want the world champion which is Shredder!
>
>Their money is not well invested if they do not make sure that the best program
>plays.
>
>If Shredder is really the best, why did Weiner refuse to let the SSDF publish
>its the results, and why did Weiner withdraw from the event when it learned that
>Shredder would have to qualify against Deep Fritz and Deep Junior?

No this is not the main reason. I fully agree with Stefan and Ossi decision.
That's a DEEP trap. It is not chess!!!!!!!!
>
>That smells.

Ciao
Sandro
>
>
>
>    Christophe



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