Author: Sandro Necchi
Date: 10:43:08 04/17/01
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On April 17, 2001 at 02:18:01, Christophe Theron wrote: >On April 16, 2001 at 02:22:16, Sandro Necchi wrote: > >>On April 15, 2001 at 14:56:41, Chessfun wrote: >> >>>On April 15, 2001 at 12:42:05, Sandro Necchi wrote: >>> >>>>On April 15, 2001 at 09:38:15, Chessfun wrote: >>>> >>>>>On April 15, 2001 at 03:05:47, Sandro Necchi wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On April 14, 2001 at 21:11:41, Chessfun wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On April 14, 2001 at 18:06:44, Frank Quisinsky wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Hello Christophe, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>the first, a good answere ! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I have already given my point of view on this issue. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>This is right. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>In short: >>>>>>>>>1) I still do not understand the arbitrary choice of Deep Fritz, Deep Junior and >>>>>>>>>Deep Shredder >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I agreed full with you ! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>That isn't what I've been reading till now. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>2) Why is the winner of such a closed tournament supposed to perform the best >>>>>>>>>against a player of a totally different kind? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Also this is right ! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>But which qualification is better as all the tourneys which Shredder won ? >>>>>>>>We have no a better compare ! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>If we look at the facts forget all thse other titles you keep claiming Frank, >>>>>>>Shredder only won one as a SMP machine. So, you have a program that should play >>>>>>>after winning one 10 round or so tourney?. >>>>>> >>>>>>Shredder tournament version won all the tournaments since 1999! No other >>>>>>tournament version did the same. These are facts, the rest are words. >>>>>>Also you do not have our latest version. How can you know how strong is Deep >>>>>>Shredder now? >>>>>> >>>>>>Sandro Necchi >>>>> >>>>>I do not have either the latest Deep Fritz or Deep Junior version....same thing. >>>>> >>>>>If you won't comply with the stated rules anyway and the others will, then you >>>>>automatically in this case disqualify yourself so regardless of how much better >>>>>the current version is to the released version it's mute. >>>> >>>>I think you are disqualifying the world champion title. >>>> >>>>that's all. >>>> >>>>Sandro >>> >>>Actually I couldn't care who the World Champion was. I want to see the strongest >>>possible Computer v Humans play. >> >>Yes, because you do not work for one year to win a tournament and so you do not >>know what it means! >> >>How can you find out which is the best program? > > > >Let the SSDF test it. You'll have a pretty good idea after some weeks. If you do not recognize the legitimacy of the ICCA World title you should not be allowed to enter your program in such event. Or better you should not enter it as your choice. SSDF is something else. In a ICCA tournament the programs are operated by the programmer which knows the best variations to play, so the performance is optimal. You are mentioning SSDF only because you did not win this tournament. I am a ICCA memeber since 1987 and I always recognized the winner. So this means in most cases not myself since I won only 2 times (1995 and 2000). It is too easy to say this is important when you win and not important when you do not win!! Sorry I am not like you!! > > > > >>How many games are needed? > > > >This can be decided mathematically. There are standard formulas. > > > > >>No programmer would let you have their F1 version to test. > > >When I release a version of my program it is the best that I have at that time. >Isn't it the same with Shredder? Of course it is. > >So where is the problem? The legimacy of the ICCA world title!! if there is no legimacy then there is no reason to held such event!! > > > > >>These are the ones that will be used in such event! > > >The programmers release the best they have. They do not keep the best version >secret. > > > > >>So since it is not possible to find out what you are asking, > > >I would say it is possible but your company (correct me if I'm wrong) has >decided to make it impossible for the SSDF to publish the true rating of >Shredder. You are wrong and you know it! Read the full story if you do not have enough memory. Sorry to be so hard, but you simply are umbelivable to me! > Sandro Necchi > > Christophe
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