Author: Chessfun
Date: 11:42:44 04/17/01
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On April 17, 2001 at 13:19:19, Sandro Necchi wrote: >On April 17, 2001 at 09:09:09, Wayne Lowrance wrote: > >>On April 17, 2001 at 07:01:17, Sandro Necchi wrote: >> >>>On April 17, 2001 at 02:42:18, Christophe Theron wrote: >>> >>>>On April 17, 2001 at 02:15:27, Sandro Necchi wrote: >>>> >>>>>On April 16, 2001 at 20:02:02, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On April 16, 2001 at 03:31:12, Sandro Necchi wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On April 16, 2001 at 02:46:59, Chessfun wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On April 16, 2001 at 02:13:32, Sandro Necchi wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On April 15, 2001 at 14:50:33, Ed Schröder wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>On April 15, 2001 at 03:05:47, Sandro Necchi wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Shredder tournament version won all the tournaments since 1999! No other >>>>>>>>>>>tournament version did the same. These are facts, the rest are words. >>>>>>>>>>>Also you do not have our latest version. How can you know how strong is Deep >>>>>>>>>>>Shredder now? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Sandro Necchi >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Hi Sandro, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>I have read Deep Blue has been invited too. What should happen if the DB >>>>>>>>>>people say yes and want to play Kramnik. Should we say: since DB has beaten >>>>>>>>>>Kasparov DB is the real and only candidate? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Ed >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Hi Ed, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>no, I think only commercial program version like our should be used. I think >>>>>>>>>your 2 programs (Rebel and Chess Tiger) should be included in the list too, but >>>>>>>>>I am not the one that decides. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Sandro >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Sandro, I thought your opinion was that Shredder was the only candidate?. >>>>>>>>The above would indicate otherwise. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>No, if only one program should match Kramnik this is Shredder because it is the >>>>>>>world champion. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Then it must be the version of Shredder which played in the 2000 WMCCC, on the >>>>>>same hardware. >>>>> >>>>>Sorry I do not agree. >>>>>> >>>>>>Because a newer version on a different hardware (in particular on a >>>>>>multiprocessor computer) does NOT own any World title as far as I know. >>>>> >>>>>If you are mad because you did not win the Computer Chess World Championship is >>>>>not my fault. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>No, I'm not mad Sandro. :) >>> >>>Good to hear. >>>> >>>>I have won some tournaments with my program too, and I'm fine. :) >>> >>>I know. >>>> >>>>You know, there is so much randomness involved in short tournaments, they do not >>>>mean that much. >>> >>>Yes, but to me it means a lot. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Since it is the only title recognized by ICCA, for me it is the most important >>>>>one. So the best version of that program with the fastest hardware should be >>>>>used. >>>>>This is my opionion. Sorry. >>>> >>>> >>>>This is just your opinion. >>> >>>Not only mine. >>>> >>>>I think that the best program of today should be used. Not just a program that >>>>has won a short tournament last year and has been hiding away from the SSDF >>>>then. >>> >>>This is your opinion. Also which should be used: >>> >>>The best against other chess programs or the best against kramnik? >>>> >>>>The organizers of the tournament need the best program. I they fail to select >>>>the best, the general audience will learn about this, and the disappointement >>>>will be huge. >>> >>>No I think the audience want the world champion which is Shredder! >> >>Not in my opinion. I think the main body of customers here would prefer to see >>the current best program compete in the tournament, I would like to see a >>candidates tourny decide who plays. I will be very angry should it turn out that >>Shreddar be selected without having played against any sort of candidates match, >>even if it is only deeps Fritz, Junior. >> >>I have purchased most all of the chess programs, it is sort of a hobby to me. I >>am way to old to improve my chess (72), I just enjoy watching the lil buggers go >>at it. SSDF to me is the ultimate measure of comp chess playing strength. I >>trust them. >>Shreader is the only program I have not purchased and do not plan to purchase. >>Why ?. Because of the suspicious marketing driven behavior of avoiding to >>compete in the most important yardstick for measuring computer chess strength, >>the SSDF. >> >>I would be very comfortable should Shreader come out the winner of a candidates >>tournament and represent the digital lil buggers. >>That is my thought, only one voice, but it is mine >> >>Wayne >> >> >>>> >>>>Their money is not well invested if they do not make sure that the best program >>>>plays. >>>> >>>>If Shredder is really the best, why did Weiner refuse to let the SSDF publish >>>>its the results, and why did Weiner withdraw from the event when it learned that >>>>Shredder would have to qualify against Deep Fritz and Deep Junior? > >We are the World Champion until the ICCA new tournament will be held and another >program win the title. >If we do not recognize such a title and event there is no reason to make such >event anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >Sandro Necchi Yes the more exclaimation marks the better. That so clearly portrays your right? no? Sarah.
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