Author: Sandro Necchi
Date: 13:02:53 04/17/01
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On April 17, 2001 at 14:42:44, Chessfun wrote: >On April 17, 2001 at 13:19:19, Sandro Necchi wrote: > >>On April 17, 2001 at 09:09:09, Wayne Lowrance wrote: >> >>>On April 17, 2001 at 07:01:17, Sandro Necchi wrote: >>> >>>>On April 17, 2001 at 02:42:18, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>> >>>>>On April 17, 2001 at 02:15:27, Sandro Necchi wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On April 16, 2001 at 20:02:02, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On April 16, 2001 at 03:31:12, Sandro Necchi wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On April 16, 2001 at 02:46:59, Chessfun wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On April 16, 2001 at 02:13:32, Sandro Necchi wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>On April 15, 2001 at 14:50:33, Ed Schröder wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>On April 15, 2001 at 03:05:47, Sandro Necchi wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Shredder tournament version won all the tournaments since 1999! No other >>>>>>>>>>>>tournament version did the same. These are facts, the rest are words. >>>>>>>>>>>>Also you do not have our latest version. How can you know how strong is Deep >>>>>>>>>>>>Shredder now? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Sandro Necchi >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Hi Sandro, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>I have read Deep Blue has been invited too. What should happen if the DB >>>>>>>>>>>people say yes and want to play Kramnik. Should we say: since DB has beaten >>>>>>>>>>>Kasparov DB is the real and only candidate? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Ed >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Hi Ed, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>no, I think only commercial program version like our should be used. I think >>>>>>>>>>your 2 programs (Rebel and Chess Tiger) should be included in the list too, but >>>>>>>>>>I am not the one that decides. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Sandro >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Sandro, I thought your opinion was that Shredder was the only candidate?. >>>>>>>>>The above would indicate otherwise. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>No, if only one program should match Kramnik this is Shredder because it is the >>>>>>>>world champion. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Then it must be the version of Shredder which played in the 2000 WMCCC, on the >>>>>>>same hardware. >>>>>> >>>>>>Sorry I do not agree. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Because a newer version on a different hardware (in particular on a >>>>>>>multiprocessor computer) does NOT own any World title as far as I know. >>>>>> >>>>>>If you are mad because you did not win the Computer Chess World Championship is >>>>>>not my fault. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>No, I'm not mad Sandro. :) >>>> >>>>Good to hear. >>>>> >>>>>I have won some tournaments with my program too, and I'm fine. :) >>>> >>>>I know. >>>>> >>>>>You know, there is so much randomness involved in short tournaments, they do not >>>>>mean that much. >>>> >>>>Yes, but to me it means a lot. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Since it is the only title recognized by ICCA, for me it is the most important >>>>>>one. So the best version of that program with the fastest hardware should be >>>>>>used. >>>>>>This is my opionion. Sorry. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>This is just your opinion. >>>> >>>>Not only mine. >>>>> >>>>>I think that the best program of today should be used. Not just a program that >>>>>has won a short tournament last year and has been hiding away from the SSDF >>>>>then. >>>> >>>>This is your opinion. Also which should be used: >>>> >>>>The best against other chess programs or the best against kramnik? >>>>> >>>>>The organizers of the tournament need the best program. I they fail to select >>>>>the best, the general audience will learn about this, and the disappointement >>>>>will be huge. >>>> >>>>No I think the audience want the world champion which is Shredder! >>> >>>Not in my opinion. I think the main body of customers here would prefer to see >>>the current best program compete in the tournament, I would like to see a >>>candidates tourny decide who plays. I will be very angry should it turn out that >>>Shreddar be selected without having played against any sort of candidates match, >>>even if it is only deeps Fritz, Junior. >>> >>>I have purchased most all of the chess programs, it is sort of a hobby to me. I >>>am way to old to improve my chess (72), I just enjoy watching the lil buggers go >>>at it. SSDF to me is the ultimate measure of comp chess playing strength. I >>>trust them. >>>Shreader is the only program I have not purchased and do not plan to purchase. >>>Why ?. Because of the suspicious marketing driven behavior of avoiding to >>>compete in the most important yardstick for measuring computer chess strength, >>>the SSDF. >>> >>>I would be very comfortable should Shreader come out the winner of a candidates >>>tournament and represent the digital lil buggers. >>>That is my thought, only one voice, but it is mine >>> >>>Wayne >>> >>> >>>>> >>>>>Their money is not well invested if they do not make sure that the best program >>>>>plays. >>>>> >>>>>If Shredder is really the best, why did Weiner refuse to let the SSDF publish >>>>>its the results, and why did Weiner withdraw from the event when it learned that >>>>>Shredder would have to qualify against Deep Fritz and Deep Junior? >> >>We are the World Champion until the ICCA new tournament will be held and another >>program win the title. >>If we do not recognize such a title and event there is no reason to make such >>event anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> >>Sandro Necchi > > >Yes the more exclaimation marks the better. >That so clearly portrays your right? no? Sarah, the point is that they have not been able to bit us. All the rest are simply excuses!!! I put a lot of exclamation marks because you like them! > >Sarah. Ciao Sandro
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