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Subject: Re: The computer world champion is Shredder

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 14:22:45 04/17/01

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On April 17, 2001 at 14:06:56, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On April 17, 2001 at 04:35:44, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>
>>This is yet another insult to Stefan Meyer-Kahlen.
>>
>>What is going on here is that many people don't recognize the legitimacy of the
>>titles that Stefan's program has won over the years, and refuse to grant him the
>>leadership position that he has earned in fair and open competition.
>
>
>
>I have another point of view.
>
>I see the current stream of events as an insult to the authors of the other very
>good chess programs.
>
>What happened? First Shredder wins the WMCCC 2000 (a short tournament, be it an
>open and fair event). But then the SSDF is forbidden to publish the results of
>this program (an attitude which is not fair and open, who can disagree?).

Can you spell "Rebel"?  :)  Didn't Ed do the same thing some while back?  If
he is suspicious of the process, he certainly has the right to not enter into
it.




>
>The consequence of this disinformation campaign is that today the fact that
>Shredder would not top the SSDF list is HIDDEN.
>
>Would the results of Shredder have been published by the SSDF, I guess that
>nobody would talk about its "legitimacy" anymore.
>
>I would seem natural to most people that Shredder can be a candidate, but all
>the programs above him in the list would be natural candidates as well.
>
>I believe that the people interested in computer chess want to see Kramnik
>fighting against the best available program, or else the event loses most of its
>interest.
>
>But thanks to the disinformation campaign organized by Mr Weiner, some people
>talk today about "legitimacy". That's like endorsing the disinformation.
>
>
>
>    Christophe


I don't see why the SSDF list should have more weight than the ICCA tournaments.
If somebody wins _one_ ICCA event, you could call it lucky.  If they win 2, it
isn't.  And didn't shredder win the last CCT as well?  Luck runs out somewhere
along the path and skill takes over...



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