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Subject: Re: The computer world champion is Shredder

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 15:03:00 04/17/01

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On April 17, 2001 at 17:22:45, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On April 17, 2001 at 14:06:56, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On April 17, 2001 at 04:35:44, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>
>>>This is yet another insult to Stefan Meyer-Kahlen.
>>>
>>>What is going on here is that many people don't recognize the legitimacy of the
>>>titles that Stefan's program has won over the years, and refuse to grant him the
>>>leadership position that he has earned in fair and open competition.
>>
>>
>>
>>I have another point of view.
>>
>>I see the current stream of events as an insult to the authors of the other very
>>good chess programs.
>>
>>What happened? First Shredder wins the WMCCC 2000 (a short tournament, be it an
>>open and fair event). But then the SSDF is forbidden to publish the results of
>>this program (an attitude which is not fair and open, who can disagree?).
>
>Can you spell "Rebel"?  :)  Didn't Ed do the same thing some while back?  If
>he is suspicious of the process, he certainly has the right to not enter into
>it.

That is correct, but just for one year because of.... well that has been
discussed endlessly at the time when it was actual.

Ed





>>The consequence of this disinformation campaign is that today the fact that
>>Shredder would not top the SSDF list is HIDDEN.
>>
>>Would the results of Shredder have been published by the SSDF, I guess that
>>nobody would talk about its "legitimacy" anymore.
>>
>>I would seem natural to most people that Shredder can be a candidate, but all
>>the programs above him in the list would be natural candidates as well.
>>
>>I believe that the people interested in computer chess want to see Kramnik
>>fighting against the best available program, or else the event loses most of its
>>interest.
>>
>>But thanks to the disinformation campaign organized by Mr Weiner, some people
>>talk today about "legitimacy". That's like endorsing the disinformation.
>>
>>
>>
>>    Christophe
>
>
>I don't see why the SSDF list should have more weight than the ICCA tournaments.
>If somebody wins _one_ ICCA event, you could call it lucky.  If they win 2, it
>isn't.  And didn't shredder win the last CCT as well?  Luck runs out somewhere
>along the path and skill takes over...



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