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Subject: Re: Miscalculation of short tactical sequence by various progs Tig/Fritz/J6

Author: Jonas Cohonas

Date: 23:59:05 04/17/01

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On April 18, 2001 at 01:09:41, Drazen Marovic wrote:

> After move 8...pxB in the following game fragment Most comps including Gambit
>tiger 2.0, Deep Fritz, Junior 6 and Hiarcs 7.32 give white almost +3.0 or
>better, when the position is actually practically equal, the progs continue this
>over-evaluation of the position up to move 11 when they suddenly see.  What
>causes this miscalculation in such a relatively simple combination, in all of
>these progs?
>
>1.e4 d5 2.exd Nf6 3.Nc3 Nxp 4.Bc4 c6 5.Qf3 Nf6 6.Ne4 Mbd7 7.Qb3 e6 8.Bxe6 pxB
>9.Qxp Qe7 10.Nd6+ Kd8 11.Nf7+ Ke8 12.Nd6 Kd8

New game - Deep Fritz
r1bqkb1r/pp1n2pp/2p1pn2/8/4N3/1Q6/PPPP1PPP/R1B1K1NR w KQkq - 0 1

Analysis by Deep Fritz:

9.Nxf6+ Nxf6
  -+  (-2.22)   Depth: 1/5   00:00:00
9.d3!
  -+  (-2.19)   Depth: 1/7   00:00:00
9.d3! Nxe4
  -+  (-1.81)   Depth: 1/8   00:00:00
9.Qxe6+!
  -+  (-1.72)   Depth: 1/8   00:00:00
9.Qxe6+! Qe7 10.Nd6+ Kd8
  -+  (-1.41)   Depth: 1/9   00:00:00
9.Qxe6+!
  =  (0.09)   Depth: 2/9   00:00:00
9.Qxe6+! Qe7 10.Nd6+ Kd8 11.Nf7+ Ke8
  +-  (2.50)   Depth: 2/10   00:00:00
9.Qxe6+ Qe7 10.Nd6+ Kd8 11.Nf7+ Ke8 12.Qxe7+ Bxe7 13.Nxh8 Kf8 14.d3 Kg8
  +-  (2.50)   Depth: 3/12   00:00:00
9.Qxe6+ Qe7 10.Nd6+ Kd8 11.Nf7+ Ke8 12.Qxe7+ Bxe7 13.Nxh8 Kf8 14.d3 Kg8
  +-  (2.50)   Depth: 4/12   00:00:00  1kN
9.Qxe6+--
  +-  (2.19)   Depth: 5/12   00:00:00  1kN
9.Qxe6+-- Qe7 10.Nd6+ Kd8 11.Nf7+ Ke8 12.Qxe7+
  ±  (0.94)   Depth: 5/12   00:00:00  2kN
9.Qxe6+ Qe7 10.Nd6+ Kd8 11.Nf7+ Ke8 12.Qxe7+ Bxe7 13.Nxh8 Kf8 14.d3 Kg8
  ±  (0.94)   Depth: 6/13   00:00:00  4kN
9.Qxe6+ Qe7 10.Nd6+ Kd8 11.Nf7+ Ke8 12.Qxe7+ Bxe7 13.Nxh8 Kf8 14.d3 Kg8
  ±  (0.94)   Depth: 7/13   00:00:00  14kN
9.Qxe6+ Qe7 10.Nd6+ Kd8 11.Nf7+ Ke8 12.Qxe7+ Bxe7 13.Nxh8 Kf8 14.d3 Kg8
  ±  (0.94)   Depth: 8/15   00:00:00  27kN
9.Qxe6+ Qe7 10.Nd6+ Kd8 11.Nf7+ Ke8 12.Qxe7+ Bxe7 13.Nxh8 Kf8 14.d3 Kg8
  ±  (0.94)   Depth: 9/16   00:00:00  80kN
9.Qxe6+ Qe7 10.Nd6+ Kd8 11.Nf7+ Ke8 12.Qxe7+ Bxe7 13.Nxh8 Kf8 14.d3 Kg8
  ±  (0.94)   Depth: 10/17   00:00:00  155kN
9.Qxe6+ Qe7 10.Nd6+ Kd8 11.Nf7+ Ke8 12.Qxe7+ Bxe7 13.Nxh8 Kf8 14.d3 Kg8
  ±  (0.94)   Depth: 11/19   00:00:00  277kN
9.Qxe6+ Qe7 10.Nd6+ Kd8 11.Nf7+ Ke8 12.Qxe7+ Bxe7 13.Nxh8 Kf8 14.d3 Kg8
  ±  (0.94)   Depth: 12/19   00:00:00  478kN
9.Qxe6+ Qe7 10.Nd6+ Kd8 11.Nf7+ Ke8 12.Qxe7+ Bxe7 13.Nxh8 Kf8 14.d3 Kg8
  ±  (0.94)   Depth: 13/23   00:00:01  1211kN
9.Qxe6+ Qe7 10.Nd6+ Kd8 11.Nf7+ Ke8 12.Qxe7+ Bxe7 13.Nxh8 Kf8 14.d3 Kg8
  ±  (0.94)   Depth: 14/24   00:00:02  2388kN
9.Qxe6+ Qe7 10.Nd6+ Kd8 11.Nf7+ Ke8 12.Qxe7+ Bxe7 13.Nxh8 Kf8 14.d3 Kg8
  ±  (0.94)   Depth: 15/25   00:00:04  4503kN
9.Qxe6+ Qe7 10.Nd6+ Kd8 11.Nf7+ Ke8 12.Qxe7+ Bxe7 13.Nxh8 Kf8 14.d3 Kg8
  ±  (0.94)   Depth: 16/28   00:00:10  9483kN
9.Qxe6+ Qe7 10.Nd6+ Kd8 11.Nf7+ Ke8 12.Qxe7+ Bxe7 13.Nxh8 Kf8 14.d3 Kg8
  ±  (0.94)   Depth: 17/38   00:00:34  30879kN
9.Qxe6+ Qe7 10.Nd6+ Kd8 11.Nf7+ Ke8 12.Qxe7+ Bxe7 13.Nxh8 Kf8 14.d3 Kg8
  ±  (0.94)   Depth: 18/40   00:01:21  75089kN
9.Qxe6+ Qe7 10.Nd6+ Kd8 11.Nf7+ Ke8 12.Qxe7+ Bxe7 13.Nxh8 Kf8 14.d3 Kg8
  ±  (0.94)   Depth: 19/42   00:03:31  197293kN

(, MyTown 19.04.2001)

 I don't know where you got your 3+ score from, but this is the output of Deep
Fritz, by the way Deep Fritz would not have played those moves when out of book.
1.3ghz t-bird 512 ram



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