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Subject: Re: The computer world champion is Shredder

Author: Paul Petersson

Date: 06:01:59 04/18/01

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On April 18, 2001 at 00:30:01, Peter Berger wrote:

>You wrote a long well-worded article . I have no idea if the SSDF people are
>nice or bad guys : judging from most of their posts here or elsewhere they sound
>rather level-headed .
>
>Nevertheless your article is just what you accuse Mr Weiner of : DISINFORMATION
>!
>
>Reading it carefully shows you didn't really answer to mine at all , or did I
>miss something ?
>
>It boils down to a simple question : why don't they simply take Shredder 5 or
>Deep Shredder NOW , test it and post the results on their list now ?

It's already on the list. All the testers know the rating of S5. The fact that
it's not on the official list is all because of one man and his actions and
behaviour towards the SSDF.

>
>I guess there's simply _no_ obvious answer to this question . I can only
>speculate that this has to do with some old battles I don't know and can't
>comment on .
>
>So I repost my list ( little mistake eliminated and new point added ) :
>
>a.) SSDF was forbidden to test Shredder 4
>b.) SSDF complained .
>c.) SSDF was allowed to test Shredder 5
>d.) SSDF rejected and said they only wanted to test Shredder if they could test
>any other program by Millenium , too .

Ossi Weiner knew the exact conditions long before we started to play with S5. He
didn't agree and now it's to late.

>e.) Millenium agreed to this but pointed out they can only make this statement
>for programs where they still hold the rights .
>f.) SSDF rejected to test Shredder 5 again and brought up the issue of an
>unpayed invoice of 500 DM of some years ago ( which never was mentioned
>before ) .
>g.) Millenium offered to provide free copies for the testers to make up for the
>unclear invoice issue .
>

There is NOTHING unclear about the invoice. His condition for paying it was that
he wanted the SSDF to withdraw all games played with the Fritz5 autoplayer and
only count manually played games.

Paul


>Btw , it seems to me some of these guys really have a _good_ memory :-) :
>
>http://f23.parsimony.net/forum50826/messages/17187.htm
>
>Speaking lowly of Shredder because of its missing in the SSDF list makes no
>sense to me ; your post would make more sense if it _was_ tested and was ranked
>25 .
>
>pete



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