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Subject: Re: Why Shredder is not playing...

Author: Wayne Lowrance

Date: 06:27:31 04/18/01

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On April 18, 2001 at 06:11:04, Stefan Meyer-Kahlen wrote:

>
>
>A lot of discussion is going on about the planned Kramnik machine match and I
>think it is necessary to give you my point of view about the whole issue. I
>refused to play in this event for various reasons which I will sum up below:
>
>·	The final version of the program playing against Kramnik must be made
>available to Kramnik end of July already. This makes an match with equal chances
>impossible as it will be very easy for Mr. Kramnik to prepare and win a match
>against any program under this circumstances. I would even say that it is
>possible for human players of my strength to win a match against any program
>with this conditions.
>
>·	For a computer to play the match against Kramnik he must win a qualifier
>against some other chess programs. This qualification tournament will be called
>the BGN computer world chess championships and the winner will be called the BGN
>computer chess world champion. I see no reasons to have another computer chess
>world championship and another computer chess world champion besides the ICCA
>tournaments and the ICCA champion so I will not play there.
>
>·	The first time I have heard about this qualification tournament was two weeks
>before the scheduled start of this event.
>
>·	The event will be played with the autoplayer and without any representative of
>the programs on site.
>
>·	The starting fee for each program will be $5000.
>
>·	The prize fund in the human machine match will be divided quite uneven in the
>case that Kramnik or the computer will win. In this respect the whole issue
>seems to me like an event only for Kramnik and the organizers to make big money,
>not to play a real match against a computer.
>
>·	There are many more points like a clause that all the micro Deeps can be
>kicked out anytime when IBM decides to join or severe restrictions in the
>marketing of this event, but I think those given above should be sufficient to
>understand my point of view.
>
>So I have various reasons not to join this thing, each of those being enough not
>to join. I hope that all the speculations, wild guesses and accusations
>concerning my withdrawal will end, particularly of those guys who even haven’t
>seen the contract, including one of my colleagues here.
>
>Stefan Meyer-Kahlen, author of Shredder.

Very good reasons. I now have a better understanding, certainly of your point of
view for which I now don't blame you for your stance. I still do not like your
stance with SSDF. This whole match has lost it's appeal for me some time ago.

I have never liked the clause that the program authors could not run and prepare
there own program. This stinks.
Kramlick is gonna prepare, indeed has been preparing I am sure now against all
of the qualified candidates, learning aforehand, _if I do this, it will do that_
etc etc.
Preparing against a human does not give this assurance with any confidence.
Hey $5000 is a lot of money I think for the Authors/retailers to just have to
sit back, wait for the outcome, not fair play.
Wayne



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