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Subject: Re: Why Shredder is not playing...

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 11:15:53 04/18/01

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On April 18, 2001 at 06:11:04, Stefan Meyer-Kahlen wrote:

>A lot of discussion is going on about the planned Kramnik machine match

right.

> and I
>think it is necessary to give you my point of view about the whole issue.

good.


>I
>refused to play in this event for various reasons


well done !


> which I will sum up below:

>·	The final version of the program playing against Kramnik must be made
>available to Kramnik end of July already. This makes an match with equal chances
>impossible as it will be very easy for Mr. Kramnik to prepare and win a match
>against any program under this circumstances.

right. this is unfair to the program.


>·	For a computer to play the match against Kramnik he must win a qualifier
>against some other chess programs. This qualification tournament will be called
>the BGN computer world chess championships and the winner will be called the BGN
>computer chess world champion. I see no reasons to have another computer chess
>world championship and another computer chess world champion besides the ICCA
>tournaments and the ICCA champion so I will not play there.

although i am a critics of the ICCA, i think this is a good point.
IF something replaces the ICCA, it should be because this organisation
is any bettern.

the stuff done by the experts of THIS tournament, with the advisors,
reminds me on the IOC and mr. samaranch. in relation to these, the ICCA
is a child and naive.


>·	The first time I have heard about this qualification tournament was two weeks
>before the scheduled start of this event.

:-))))


>·	The event will be played with the autoplayer and without any representative of
>the programs on site.

right. there should be a representative.

>·	The starting fee for each program will be $5000.

:-)))


>·	The prize fund in the human machine match will be divided quite uneven in the
>case that Kramnik or the computer will win. In this respect the whole issue
>seems to me like an event only for Kramnik and the organizers to make big money,
>not to play a real match against a computer.

absolutely right!!
although i think it is more a PR-gag than a money machine, but... the one
is helping the other.

>·	There are many more points like a clause that all the micro Deeps can be
>kicked out anytime when IBM decides to join or severe restrictions in the
>marketing of this event, but I think those given above should be sufficient to
>understand my point of view.

right.

>So I have various reasons not to join this thing, each of those being enough not
>to join. I hope that all the speculations, wild guesses and accusations
>concerning my withdrawal will end, particularly of those guys who even haven’t
>seen the contract, including one of my colleagues here.

the reasons you do not participate is part of the main critic the event got in
this forum. it correlates very well to my own point of view.


>Stefan Meyer-Kahlen, author of Shredder.



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