Author: Tanya Deborah
Date: 16:01:19 04/18/01
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On April 18, 2001 at 18:11:37, Thomas Lagershausen wrote: >On April 18, 2001 at 16:24:14, Mike S. wrote: > >>On April 18, 2001 at 13:35:44, Mogens Larsen wrote: >> >>>That is a very commendable attitude, but as a wildcard entry you didn't have >>>anything to lose. So the laissez-faire attitude is somewhat free IMO. >> >>Until now, I had the impression that you are a person who writes reasonable, and >>sometimes quite humorous IIRC, messages. > >Oh Mike you understand to less. >> >>Did you now call Deep Junior a "wildcard entry"? What is this based upon? > >No worldchampiontitel since 1997 >no tournamentwin since the speedtourny of enrique >a very ugly style of chess >positional a weak program in comparison with fritz,shredder and tiger >lots of ugly games ( do you want examples?) >the stupid game against kramnik in dortmund 2000 on a4-way-machine >etc,etc,etc > > >> >>I can imagine that you wouldn't call Deep Shredder a wildcard entry - me >>neither. > >how can you compare junior with the worldchampion shredder? > > But who has played so far, and won, an event of a comparable size and >>importance to that Braingames aim for? *Deep Blue* only did this when it beat >>Kasparov. >> >>People should start to realise the dimension of what is planned here. > >we do this, but you agree to a wildcard for junior. >> >>Keeping the conditions in mind which were told to us, Deep Junior fully deserves >>to participate in this qualifying. Who doubts this? > >Here we are.All people with a good clubniveau hate junior. >It plays such a ugly computerchess. > > It isn't an act of grace to >>invite it, this happened in view of it's rank among chess programs, > >haha. The tiger would make win after win against this wildcardprogram. > >it's >>strength and of the successes it already has had against human masters, >>obviously. > >The games in dortmund were very,very poor. Lots of Kh1-g1 and Kg1-h1 moves. >brrrrr what an stupid chess. >It hurts my eyes.No more juniorgames in my life. > First of all. Junior is a great Program. I dont hate Junior! I love this program. It is a very good program against humans. And respect about the games in Dortmund you are completely in a mistake. What other kind of program can reach 2703 elo in a high and very good tournament like Dortmund? ... Junior score 50% and for me, it is a very good score against all of this GM´s. The best in the history of computer chess programs. -You dont understand the real mean of this. The clear point is that any program in the World can win against Kramnik if he will have to get a copy of the program 3 months before. Look at Wayne said, and Uri post, they are completely right about this unfair competition.. Tanya. > It doesn't depend on a "wildcard". > >Can we proof this? We don´t believe it.It is for sure that tiger is two classes >better, especialy against humans. >> >>I think this kind of talk isn't necessary. > >i hope that too. >What an unverified opinion. > >Thomas Lagershausen > >> >>Regards, >>M.Scheidl
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