Author: Chessfun
Date: 21:05:14 04/18/01
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On April 18, 2001 at 22:14:51, Mogens Larsen wrote: >On April 18, 2001 at 18:17:41, Chessfun wrote: > > >You don't seem to get it. The event wouldn't be any better if SMK said yes. >There would still be the problem of recommendation and fairness. No I get it. What you don't get is what your saying. Why complain about the event without Shredder and in the same breath complain about the programmer not being able to operate the program. If Shredder is out, it's out and operator involvement is IMO one of the smallest reasons for it. The main one would seem that Shredder isn't automatically qualified. >I've told you how you do things fairly over and over again. What is it that you >don't get? Most, if not all, sporting events use the concept of equal >opportunity and champion cycles. I really don't see why that is hard to >understand. Is it because you want to be certain that you can fiddle along with >DJ and DF at home during the match? Your resistance to allowing non commercial >engines suggest that. No you have written your opinion on what's fair. Like for example Shredder being an automatic choice, which I don't happen to agree with. You ahve then written what you think is fair regarding how the participants should be chosen. Again I don't agree with that either. My preferring of commercial engines is wanting the development of professional programs, which will trickle down to further development of amateur programs. I would assume neither DF or DJ will be the current released versions. However I expect they will be released at some later point. >Have you ever followed discussions here after a computer chess tournament? If >you have, then you know what a team can alter from match to match. That ranges >from concrete alterations in the code (rare, but I think a few did it at >Paderborn to fix bugs) to changing book attributes according to opponent. Not to >mention time allocation, agressiveness, mobility etc..... I know what they can alter and what some do. That don't be I have to agree that it's the best way to determine if program a is stronger than b or which program is the best or World Champion. >Sarah, there's a multitude of alterable parameters, which in the hands of >someone who knows the program intimately can change performance. You're very >familiar with changing attributes for Chessmaster 6000 and also the Shredder >personalities. Just expand that notion and you get the idea. I have the idea. It's my reasoning as to why SMK has won the previous World Championships. Again because it's done don't mean that I have to agree with it. In the same way as you don't agree with the format chosen now. >We both know that it will be autoplayed, which I don't understand. It saves time >I imagine, but a bug could be devastating through repetition. A non author (or >another team member) operated program will be weaker. Well in this case as I understand both programmers are willing to allow their programs to be run by Enrique and trust his results. Sarah.
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