Author: Uri Blass
Date: 22:01:59 04/18/01
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On April 18, 2001 at 18:11:37, Thomas Lagershausen wrote: >On April 18, 2001 at 16:24:14, Mike S. wrote: > >>On April 18, 2001 at 13:35:44, Mogens Larsen wrote: >> >>>That is a very commendable attitude, but as a wildcard entry you didn't have >>>anything to lose. So the laissez-faire attitude is somewhat free IMO. >> >>Until now, I had the impression that you are a person who writes reasonable, and >>sometimes quite humorous IIRC, messages. > >Oh Mike you understand to less. >> >>Did you now call Deep Junior a "wildcard entry"? What is this based upon? > >No worldchampiontitel since 1997 >no tournamentwin since the speedtourny of enrique >a very ugly style of chess >positional a weak program in comparison with fritz,shredder and tiger >lots of ugly games ( do you want examples?) >the stupid game against kramnik in dortmund 2000 on a4-way-machine >etc,etc,etc > > >> >>I can imagine that you wouldn't call Deep Shredder a wildcard entry - me >>neither. > >how can you compare junior with the worldchampion shredder? > > But who has played so far, and won, an event of a comparable size and >>importance to that Braingames aim for? *Deep Blue* only did this when it beat >>Kasparov. >> >>People should start to realise the dimension of what is planned here. > >we do this, but you agree to a wildcard for junior. >> >>Keeping the conditions in mind which were told to us, Deep Junior fully deserves >>to participate in this qualifying. Who doubts this? > >Here we are.All people with a good clubniveau hate junior. >It plays such a ugly computerchess. Did you look at the last WCCC when Junior played? It did not win the competition but it was clearly different then Junior of dortmund. The changes were not only positive changes and this is the reason that Junior missed a win against Shredder that the original Junior could find(but the original Junior could not probably get the winning position against shredder). Junior played also against humans later and if you looked at the games in club kasparov you could see that it is different than the commercial Junior. I also do not like the fact that you criticized Junior so hard. It had bad games but it had also good games(for example the draw against adams). Uri
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