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Subject: Re: only a nice game of c.-chess...

Author: Moritz Berger

Date: 14:18:34 04/03/98

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On April 03, 1998 at 14:29:42, Thorsten Czub wrote:


>You get 70 % ?
>How ?
>With your autoplayer ? How do you operate CSTal that is loses vs. Fritz
>?
>
>
>>Let's see, at first glance I have 86 games Fritz vs. various CST
>>incarnations ...
>>
>>+44 =28 -9 for Fritz (72%)
>
>And who believes that this statistic is not cheated ?
>Do you really believe what you write ? I am really astonished.

Stop *cheating* yourself Thorsten!

Please confirm:

1. I have sent you the games in question already a long time ago.

2. Many of those games contained both Fritz annotations (time, depth,
eval) and Chess System Tal logfiles (search profile etc.)

3. You accuse me of not sending you all the games I have (i.e. keeping
Fritz losses for myself and presenting you only wins and draws). You
implicitly call me a liar and cheater. Please confirm if this is indeed
the fact. Your reasoning leaves no other possibility, since the
individual games you received can all be verified down to the very last
move.

4. No independent tester with a Fritz autoplayer (e.g. Enrique, myself,
several SSDF guys) has produced bad results for Fritz. So are they all
cheating?

5. Several people have had good results with Fritz on e.g. ICC. No
autoplayer involved. Do these guys also "cheat"? Probably you will claim
this next second.

6. Please describe why the Nunn test suite (which supports the SSDF
results) is a cheat. Do you call GM Dr. John Nunn also a cheater? In
which way would the Nunn positions favour Fritz? Please clarify.

7. Please name other persons beside yourself who have ever had "bad"
results with Fritz 5. Complete game scores with eval, depth etc.
preferred (the SSDF offers you no less, at least).

Moritz



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